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Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

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Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 13:50

The wife is keen on all these fruit ciders which taste nothing like cider... Kiwi/lime, etc. And the raspberry Crabbies ginger beer which basically doesn't taste much of ginger.

The cider is just the main bulk and provides the alcohol cheaply. I've been told they sometimes use white grape juice rather than apples for those which are very pale, almost clear?

I wondered, can I just dump ale yeast in sugar water with a bit of nutrient? I've made a weak mead from simply honey+water+yeast and it has a white-wine kind of flavour. What does fermented white sugar taste of, if anything? Is it clear or coloured?
Is this a reasonable and cheap way to generate alcohol I can use for fruit 'ciders' and alcopop type things?
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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby oldbloke » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:03

hmmmm dunno really. i imagine it'd work but i'll guess it'd lack body. And the apple grape juice base probably adds more than you can easily tell.
Seems like an ideal thing to try a 2-demijohms-side-by-side experiment, one with just sugar water and the other with apple juice
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Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:15

Is there an obvious candidate for the cheapest way to get an "alcoholic base" that has some sort of body but no overpowering falvour? Apple juice is cheap and sweet, is that the best bang per buck?
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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby Rolfster » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:20

What about a tea bag wine? Using fruit flavoured tea bags.
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Postby oldbloke » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:40

I've used golden syrup instead of honey in melomels. It gives a slightly toffee-ish note but no real flavour, and does provide some body
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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:47

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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby jkp » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:50

Couldn't you just skip the hard work and get her a bottle of vodka and some mixers?
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Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 15:13

Couldn't I just skip brewing entirely and go to Tesco for all my beer and cider and wine?
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Postby Rolfster » Wed Mar 15, 2017 15:18

I've alway intended to make one as apparently they are very quick start to finish and don't need any aging!

Still haven't got round to it!
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Postby MrBoy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 01:05

What's it end up like then? Or is it not similar to anything else?

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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Mon Mar 20, 2017 08:43

Sugar, bread yeast and red lentils.




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Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Mon Mar 20, 2017 21:54

I would also say that this kind of quick cheap alcohol will give you a blinding headache.. Beware my friend......




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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Tue Mar 21, 2017 07:39

I think this type of alcohol created would be high in Ethanol, and other nasties that are a major contributor to a bad head.




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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby PhatFil » Wed Mar 22, 2017 23:36

ive only brewed a hi gravity sugar wash with one of the hi alcohol tolerant industrial yeasts the once, The product was circa 20% abv However the fermentation Stank the house out.

personally i would look at brewing a few apple juice based Turbo cider-esq brews there is a great selection of other juices available to modify the flavour not forgeting the jui.ce flavour concentrates.
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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby oldbloke » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:44

With care and time you can get Gervin GV4 to 20% without nasty smells or tastes
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Re: Just fermenting sugar as a base for flavoured drinks?

Postby robwalker » Wed May 10, 2017 19:12

Start with an alcotec kit. Activated carbon will strip the flavour out then you can add soda stream flavouring or similar. The diet ones are non fermentable. There's some nice tacky cider kits on the market too.
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