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are these elderberries?

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:36

I aged mine for about a month or so in bulk under airlock and then in bottles.

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby Maysie » Wed Sep 07, 2016 13:25

For those trying to find GA's Elderflower Port recipe (as I just did).

Its here:
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 13:54


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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Wed Sep 07, 2016 14:06

As long as it has a hefty abv and kept cool it should be fine but keep an eye on it fruit flies are about this time of year. Your don't want beersamic vinegar.

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby MPLMPL » Wed Sep 07, 2016 14:57


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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby demig » Wed Sep 07, 2016 23:39

F00b4r has been mentioning elderberries to me regularly recently, having read this thread I now must pay attention to him and double check the elderberries at the allotment to see if they are ready as we are brewing this one! It sounds lovely.
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby f00b4r » Thu Sep 08, 2016 13:46

I have a Crusader keg all ready to be put aside for the two years I am in Berlin ;)
Luckily Demig is a corny man so it should stay safe from any late night tipsy temptations to sample early :P
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:10

Thanks for that MPLMPL - I reckon I'll do the same and split it with/without elderberries.

Actually, what about blackberries or black currents? - that could work?

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:55

Damsons would be my other choice though perhaps in a porter

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 13:54


2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby MPLMPL » Fri Sep 09, 2016 14:07


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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Fri Sep 09, 2016 14:32

Damsons look like little bright purple plumbs.

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 19:26


2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Sat Sep 10, 2016 21:01

I have my secret place for them.

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 22:13

Today was quite fruitful - found another source of elderberries and an apple tree, plus more blackberries than we can realistically use. Thinking of making some jam - they should all mix quite nicely.

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 16:22

any idea what this is? - found loads growing locally
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Sun Sep 11, 2016 16:25

Not a mind reader a photo may help :whistle:

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 17:42

balls - it's an acorn (duh!)

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 18:59

on the upside, we (step-daughter and I) collected around 500g blackberries, 400g elderberries and 200g crab apples. I'm just going to make a jam with the lot. There's loads more elderberries I've found today, so I've got three different spots I can source them plus loads of crab apples (scrumpy coming soon).

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby graysalchemy » Sun Sep 11, 2016 19:26

If you are making cider it's best to use an equal mix of eaters cookers and crabs that will give a nice balance of acid, tannin and sugars.

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby HTH1975 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 21:14


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are these elderberries?

Postby f00b4r » Wed Sep 25, 2019 13:46

So a bit of a thread revival but can anyone confirm for CERTAIN that these are elderberries as I do not want to be picking something similar but poisonous?
There were not many left but I might be able to grab enough tomorrow to make graysalchemy’s stout before they are all gone (there is also another place that is apparently worth trying that may have more).

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby vacant » Wed Sep 25, 2019 16:48

Not an expert but NO, nothing like the elderberries in my garden

That last pic has a stem with leaves on alternate sides. Elderberry has leaves in pairs on opposite sides

https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/visiti ... ees/elder/

Maybe laurel?

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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby f00b4r » Wed Sep 25, 2019 19:21

Good point! I think I might try this other place tomorrow and post some pictures from there.
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Re: are these elderberries?

Postby robwalker » Fri Sep 27, 2019 20:50

Yea they look too big. Elderberries are close to the size of juniper berries.
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