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Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Sun May 17, 2015 07:33

Shame about the weather. But must be great to be able to bugger off to a caravan in Cornwall for a few weeks with a homebrew stash. A lifestyle to aspire to.
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Robdob » Tue May 19, 2015 15:42

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Robdob » Fri May 29, 2015 17:44

Got another order from MM, I now have 19ltrs of Orkney #2 bubbling away. I had to use some Dark crystal as I don't have crystal40, I doubled the grains (except MO) and the hops and added 1kg DME then liqueured back to 1.040. It's less OG than your recipe but I wanted more beer to bottle.
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby oakers73 » Fri May 29, 2015 19:32

I have done a three of these All grain small batches in my small pot and have been blown away by quality difference between this and a partial mash. Here is an APA I did recently that was ace.

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.046
Final Gravity: 1.012
ABV (standard): 4.54%
IBU (tinseth): 50.58
SRM (morey): 5.85

FERMENTABLES:
2 kg - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (87%)
0.1 kg - United Kingdom - Cara Malt (4.3%)
0.2 kg - United Kingdom - Wheat (8.7%)

HOPS:
10 g - Galena, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 13, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 30.48
8 g - Amarillo, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 8.6, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 8
8 g - Cascade, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 7, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 6.51
8 g - Ahtanum, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 6, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 5.58
10 g - Cascade, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 7, Use: Aroma for 0 min
10 g - Amarillo, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 8.6, Use: Aroma for 0 min
10 g - Ahtanum, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 6, Use: Aroma for 0 min

Dry hop with Amarillo and Ahtanum

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Decoction, Temp: 67 C, Time: 90 min, Amount: 8 L

YEAST:
Fermentis / Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04
Starter: No
Form: Dry
Attenuation (avg): 75%
Flocculation: High
Optimum Temp: 12.22 - 25 C
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Robdob » Fri May 29, 2015 22:39

That looks a crackin beer Oakers, Like you I only have a 15ltr pot and have done a few AG brews. Do you think using DME stops a brew being as good somehow? I mostly use it to do a larger brew of beers I know I like, so there's a bigger stock.....mine seem to disappear too quickly!

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby oakers73 » Fri May 29, 2015 22:43

I have done both partial mash and small pot AG and there is a quality difference with the AG. I am able to get a dryer result which is good for pale hoppy beers. Not sure how measurable it is. I made good beer with both LME and DME. .. The AG is way cheaper though. I am doing a partial mash tomorrow just so I can get some more beer for the BBQ season.!
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:41

I reckon AG makes the best beer followed by partial mash. And a PM depends on the proportion of extract to grain. I have used around 20 - 30% extract to get more beer. I prefer DME to LME based on the experience I've had.

That beer/recipe looks fantastic oakers.
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby oakers73 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 17:12

Thanks...you should try it. I am going to try a similar recipe with 40% pilsner malt to see if I can get an even lighter bbq quencher.
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby gregles » Tue Jul 21, 2015 22:45

Playing about with Grays Alchemy Odd Job recipe to suit a partial mash for 12 litres

The original recipe is here and is for a 23l batch

Grain Bill
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4.464 kg Pale Ale Malt (90%)
0.248 kg Flaked Oats (5%)
0.248 kg Wheat Malt (5%)

Hop Bill
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8.4 g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
8.4 g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
8.4 g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
18.0 g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
14.6 g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.6 g/L)
12.5 g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
14.6 g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.6 g/L)
16.7 g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.7 g/L)
12.5 g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
6.3 g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
6.3 g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
6.3 g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)

Would this scale down ok to this ? I have reduced the pale malt to scale (x.52) and then using a factor of base malt to dry malt extract of 0.6 come up up with the figures below. I have reduced the hops to scale(x.52) and added 20% to compensate for "reduced utilisation"

Grain Bill
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1kg DME Light
0.900 kg Pale Ale Malt
0.130kg kg Flaked Oats
0.130 kg Wheat Malt

Hop Bill
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5.5g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
5.5g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
5.5g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
10.3g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
9.2g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.6 g/L)
7.8g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
9.2g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.6 g/L)
10.4g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.7 g/L)
7.8g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
4.0g Cascade Leaf (7.9% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
4.0g Chinook Leaf (13.8% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
4.0 g Willamette Leaf (6.3% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Zod » Wed Jul 22, 2015 08:46

having just done my first two extracts I'm keen to give this a go. Great guide at the start, very clear!
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Wed Jul 29, 2015 19:25

Sorry been awol, good to see new interest. That scaling down looks ok, gregles, not checked it but looks about right. Let me know how you get on.

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Zod » Sun Aug 02, 2015 17:59

I'd love to try the Black RyePA, but the initial outlay for ingredients is prohibitive (never know if I'll use up what's leftover). Since it's my first attempt I've kept it simple and tried an approximation of Oakham Ale's Citra.....feedback welcomed!

Batch Size (L): 12.0
Original Gravity (OG): 1.054
Bitterness (IBU): 46.394

2.0 kg Maris Otter Malt (66.67%)
1.0 kg Dry Malt Extract - Light (33.33%)

Citra 15g (12% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes
Citra 10g (12% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes
Citra 15g (12% Alpha) @ 00 Minutes
Citra 20g (12% Alpha) Dry Hop

Yeast - US-05
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby oakers73 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 19:07

Looks good to me.... hope you like citra. .. I usually try and compliment it with something else like cascade or amarillo. .. either way that looks a tasty brew...
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Robdob » Mon Aug 03, 2015 21:52

You boys are gonna love the Black Rye ale! Got back from Cornwall yesterday and have bottled 27x660ml bottles of it after doing a double brew (2 x 15ltr) batch. A while back. Now I have a fermenting fridge I set it to 12degs. While I was away for the week as it had finished fermenting. It's coming back down with me in 2weeks time! Hope your brews turn out ok as P2M has designed a cracker!
All the best, Rob.
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Tue Aug 04, 2015 08:35

Looking forward to hearing how these brews go. The Black Rye uses a lot of ingredients and the hops are expensive, I had built some stocks up by the time i invented it. I sort of invented it to use some of the stocks I'd built up!

The Citra recipe looks fine, maybe drop the IBUs a little? I like a bit of caramalt in those pale hoppy brews, 7 or 8% works well.
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Zod » Mon Aug 24, 2015 15:59

look what gregles very kindly sent me in the post. A few of the ingredients to make the Black RyePA. Just need to get the others (hopefully in two weeks time) and I'll have a crack at brewing it. Thanks again gregles!

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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby gregles » Mon Aug 24, 2015 17:52

Cheers Zod, glad they arrived safely. Hope the brew goes well - it's a bit tasty :thumb:
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Re: Stove top Partial Mash

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Tue Aug 25, 2015 00:02

Nice one gregles!
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