Using a polypin

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Kyle_T » Mon Jun 02, 2014 19:51

Since the 22nd May but it was very low on the carbonation side of things.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Dennis King » Mon Jun 02, 2014 20:42

Is that when you barreled it or when you started to drink it.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Kyle_T » Mon Jun 02, 2014 21:42

When I started drinking it from the pump.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Dennis King » Mon Jun 02, 2014 21:48

Even so it should be OK in that amount of time. Are there any loose connections where air may have got in.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Kyle_T » Mon Jun 02, 2014 23:04

I'm not sure, I tightened the jubilee clips as tight as they would go and I couldn't see any bubbles in the pipeline, maybe the beer engine it selfs needs a good stripping down and cleaning.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Dennis King » Mon Jun 02, 2014 23:08

Kyle_T wrote:I'm not sure, I tightened the jubilee clips as tight as they would go and I couldn't see any bubbles in the pipeline, maybe the beer engine it selfs needs a good stripping down and cleaning.


It is not that hard, certainly worth doing.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby oldjiver » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:39

I see that Poundland has 10litre food grade polypins on sale at £1. Shame about the funny little tap. I may give one a go next brew.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby DerbyshireNick » Mon Aug 04, 2014 16:24

Sorry to bump an oldish thread, came across it in a google search.

Seems a few of you guys are using these here. How are you finding shelf life?

I have a few I have never used and very tempted to try them out.

I understand its generally accepted that they last about 2 weeks once drinking has commenced but how have you found the shelf life between the FV and that point?

The reason I ask is I am interested in filling 4x5L or 2x10L pins with the hope that they can be spaced out a bit.

Would you always recommend delaying the prime until 7 days to drinking. Even if it had been left to condition for say... a month?

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Kyle_T » Mon Aug 04, 2014 19:25

Hello mate,

I'd used them a few times before but always found the results wanting, until I read this and realised I was doing it all wrong, since reading how to do it right I have found the results to be much better, instead of doing a secondary how I used to I just transfered to the pin and do the secondary in that for a few weeks and then prime as normal.

Even bought myself a check valve to go with the beer engine for a longer shelf life but the last 2 times I used them it was just about 4 weeks I got out of them.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Dennis King » Mon Aug 04, 2014 19:29

Hi Nick, I used 20lt ones and tend to finish them in around 2-3 weeks once I start to drink. I have known them to last 4 weeks. Don't prime these days as I use a hand pump and don't feel it needs it. When I did prime I would prime around 5 days before I started to drink, see start of this guide for a more in depth explanation.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby rpt » Mon Aug 04, 2014 20:00

My experience with shelf life is not too good at the moment. I'm currently drinking a best bitter from a polypin that I filled 2 weeks ago and it is great. But I have found that if it is 6 weeks (and possible as little as 4 weeks) old then it is getting oxidised. This may be down to my filling technique so I am hoping to improve things. I prime when filling in the expectation that the yeast will get rid of as much residual oxygen as possible.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Springer » Mon Aug 04, 2014 20:33

When I fill mine, I fill them "full" :lol: if you see what I mean and squash them slightly to expell any air as I put the tap on. Also don't let any air back in as you draw stuff out, most important when they are nearly empty. Works for me. How about using smaller pins if they are lasting two long.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby rpt » Mon Aug 04, 2014 21:12

I use 5L polypins. It's not the life from starting to drink to finishing that's the problem, but how long they last after filling.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby GAZ9053 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 21:23

so how long do you find they last from filling then rpt?

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby rpt » Mon Aug 04, 2014 22:10

Can't give a definite answer on that one but after 2 weeks it's fine and after 6 weeks it was oxidised. But as I said I probably need to improve my filling technique.

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Dennis King » Mon Aug 04, 2014 22:21

GAZ9053 wrote:so how long do you find they last from filling then rpt?


On average after filling I mature for 3-4 weeks then take 2-3 weeks to drink.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby GAZ9053 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 22:28

How long have most of you managed to store them?

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby GrowlingDog » Mon Aug 04, 2014 22:36

I find once a polypin is full and in condition it doesn't last long at all. ;)
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Dennis King » Mon Aug 04, 2014 22:39

GAZ9053 wrote:How long have most of you managed to store them?


5-6 weeks is probably the longest I've left it before I start drinking.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Springer » Mon Aug 04, 2014 23:29

GrowlingDogBeer wrote:I find once a polypin is full and in condition it doesn't last long at all. ;)


:lol: know what you mean, especially the 5 litre ones. :D

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Kev888 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 16:42

I see some of the thin BiB-type pins are multi-layered and supposedly designed to be more resistant to oxygen. Not sure if they'd work as well as the thicker ones, but perhaps they could extend shelf life?

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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Crankwood » Tue Aug 05, 2014 18:48

5 litre polypins? I can't see the point. I get depressed that my 50 litre kegs run out too quickly!
Reading my reply back, I think that I need some quiet time with an alcohol abuse counsellor.
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Springer » Tue Aug 05, 2014 20:23

Crankwood wrote:5 litre polypins? I can't see the point. I get depressed that my 50 litre kegs run out too quickly!
Reading my reply back, I think that I need some quiet time with an alcohol abuse counsellor.


:lol:
Maybe move down to 20 litre pins, see how that goes :hmm:
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby Crankwood » Tue Aug 05, 2014 20:48

Springer wrote: :lol:
Maybe move down to 20 litre pins, see how that goes :hmm:
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So what would I drink with the main course?
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Re: Using a polypin

Postby liamtmt7 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 19:48

Great thread going here. I'm looking to move away from bottling all of my beers - purely because I am finding it difficult to get the time to brew and bottle since going BIAB.

Considering buying 2 5litre pins and bottling the rest - am I right in thinking I can pour straight from the pin?
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