Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

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Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby beer buddah » Sun Apr 16, 2017 22:27

Hi guys.
I'm looking to bottle using a long bought unused hop rocket. I plan on filling it with grapefruit and passion fruit and connecting it in the bottling liquid line from keg.
The thing is as its first time... will the beer go off soon after as the fruit is not sterilized but if I boil before it might destroy the flavor but I'm not sure so seeking any advice. The bottles will be consumed shortly after not long term storage.
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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby HTH1975 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 23:01

Not sure you'll pick up much flavour from the short contact time. You'd be better off steeping your beer for a few days with the fruit.

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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby beer buddah » Sun Apr 16, 2017 23:20

It's one of those impulse buys but not sure what advantage it will give. As you say adding to secondary will do the job so how to integrate hop rocket in a way that I taught it might infuse fruit flavors more intense at bottling. It might gather more dust.
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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby HTH1975 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 23:36

I've got one too - used it to transfer from primary to secondary with hops in it (Randaliser), but not sure it gave off any hope aroma/flavour at all. Was more useful filled with rice hulls as a filter from FV to bottling bucket. Mind, since I started crash-cooling I don't find I need it.

The real benefit from this will come when I get a plate chiller as I'll be able to use the hops both to add flavour/aroma and also as a trub-filter.

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed (need to update this figure)
Drinking: Landlord clone
Conditioning: ciders from 2016, hedgerow barrolo, 1914 Courage RIS (10%).
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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby beer buddah » Mon Apr 17, 2017 00:12

I have a plate chiller but as I use fastfermenters I can drain the trub out from bottom of conical before pitching yeast.
When people see the rocket everyone wants one it but I think its not worth more than WOW shiny value.
Maybe I might just fill it up with different things and see how it adds or subtracts from draught beer but going by your experience.......more hassle than its worth.

Also off topic ish but I use 3 bar pressure hot water to back flush the plate chiller after normal homebrew setup clean at on 1 or 2 PSi at best and I get allot particles flushed out. I'd be weary about adding hops pre chiller as it might block but if not I'd want to make sure it gets a really good clean after. When i give it the 3 bar clean I get seeds from hops coming out and that's after filter in boil kettle so just heads up.
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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby HTH1975 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:18

Thanks for the heads up - I will bear that in mind once I get a plate chiller.

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed (need to update this figure)
Drinking: Landlord clone
Conditioning: ciders from 2016, hedgerow barrolo, 1914 Courage RIS (10%).
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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby PhatFil » Mon Apr 17, 2017 13:39

And dont get tempted by the Rims rocket mod either, well not until there is a uk stockist, UPS hit me with a £60 vat + admin bill !!! and its a great dust catcher too (with a 'safety' liquid vent sat next to hi amp power terminals)..
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Re: Bottling from hop rocket ( randalizer).

Postby HTH1975 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 18:31

I've just been talking about hopback with a friend of mine today on the back of watching a Timothy Taylor brewing process video.

I was speculating that you could likely get a very similar result as a hopback by steeping hops at flameout. My own process is to chill to 80C maximum and leave the flameout hops steep for 60-90 minutes. I get great hop flavour using this method.

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed (need to update this figure)
Drinking: Landlord clone
Conditioning: ciders from 2016, hedgerow barrolo, 1914 Courage RIS (10%).
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