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Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Dennis King » Sat Apr 12, 2014 23:40

One of the best brewing books on the market. Does what it says on the tin. Now on the third edition the clone recipes include several of the Uk's most well known beers. The instructions are ideal for new brewers, clear and concise. Not the most technical book going but it never claims to be.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Good Ed » Sat Apr 12, 2014 23:42

+1 as Dennis says, everyone starting off should read this

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby ryanshelton » Sun Apr 13, 2014 00:03

What would the 'next step up' from GW books be? If there is such a thing!

I love reading brewing books but found GW very basic and the recipes are not great

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Dennis King » Sun Apr 13, 2014 00:15

ryanshelton wrote:I love reading brewing books but found GW very basic and the recipes are not great


I think both the book and recipes are basic but the beers he is trying to replicate are basic. He's other book, home brewing, is more technical and does go into a lot more detail. Unfortunately I believe it is out of print and he's promised re-write now seems unlikely as he has had some health problems along with contractual problems with CAMRA.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Good Ed » Sun Apr 13, 2014 00:28

ryanshelton wrote:What would the 'next step up' from GW books be? If there is such a thing!

I love reading brewing books but found GW very basic and the recipes are not great


If you want to read in more depth, New Brewing Lager Beer by the late Greg Noonan. Don't worry about the title as most of it applies to all beers. I've had it for a while, but not actually read it cover to cover yet, so I don't feel like I could a proper review on here yet.

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby BIGJIM72 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 00:32

ryanshelton wrote:What would the 'next step up' from GW books be? If there is such a thing!

I love reading brewing books but found GW very basic and the recipes are not great


Clone Brews is worth a look-but all based around US measurements.

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby BIGJIM72 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 00:35

Dennis King wrote:
ryanshelton wrote:I love reading brewing books but found GW very basic and the recipes are not great


I think both the book and recipes are basic but the beers he is trying to replicate are basic. He's other book, home brewing, is more technical and does go into a lot more detail. Unfortunately I believe it is out of print and he's promised re-write now seems unlikely as he has had some health problems along with contractual problems with CAMRA.


The 2nd edition has a few different beers in it. His book with Roger Protz of brewing classic European beers isn't a bad read

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby abeyptfc » Sun Apr 13, 2014 00:37

aye its a superb book, I don't read any books at all, its too boring for me, but since I've started brewing I;ve bought about 12 books and read them all, the thing is although it's written in a book doesn't mean its gospel, different things work on different kits.what works for 1 person doesn't for another.don't be worried if what you do isn't exactly what is says in the book.aslong as everyhitng that touchers your beer is sanitised then your beer is hardy stuff, it should be ok.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Aleman » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:18

Well what can you say?

Now in its 3rd incarnation, with a lot of new beers, and a lot more sensible ingredients.

It has a usable section on brewing techniques, with nothing really too complex, and the recipes are sound. The other really good thing is that quantities are given in a variety of batch sizes and in 'Imperial' (For US brewers) and metric.

Certainly one to have on the brewing shelf (With the other two editions as well

There were some printing errors in the first couple of impressions

Graham Wheeler wrote:Below I've cut and paste the corrections that I sent to CAMRA for a new reprint of BYO that is in progress now. Whether or not they have incorporated the corrections remains to be seen.

Page 120 Belhaven 80/- Replace Some Hops with: Whitbread Golding Hops
Page 136 Camerons Strongarm Replace Some Hops with: Golding Hops
Page 147 Ex Valley Dobs Best Bitter Replace Some Hops with: Golding Hops
Page 156: The subheading: "Post-boil Hops” should be bold.
Page 166 J. W. Lees Bitter Replace Some Hops with: Golding Hops
Page 171 Marstons Pedigree Replace Some Hops with: Whitbread Golding Hops
Page 183 Timothy Taylors Best Bitter Replace Some Hops with: Golding Hops

please note:The use of punctuation, bold, underlining, italics, and different sized type, follows the convention used in writing, for many years, to place emphasis on the point being made, and to highlight the importance of that point in the opinion of the author. It is not the intention of the author to shout, if that was the case the author would adopt the, much more recent, convention of using all capital letters.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby jkp » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:33

It looks like a revised 3rd edition is on the way Oct 2014, Amazon US are taking pre-orders for it:

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All of the authoritative advice and instructions of the previous edition in a new hard-wearing, lavishly illustrated format to better show methods and equipment

So maybe just nicer printing but same content?
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Aleman » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:58

The revised 3rd edition has been promised by Amazon for at least 2 years!!

What happened is that CAMRA approached Graham Wheeler and asked him to update the book . . . He said yes but I'm not being pressured into it, it will be ready when its ready. . . . and then CAMRA turned round to Amazon and said it'll be available in 6 months . . . Graham told CAMRA to take a running jump

http://www.practicalbrewing.co.uk/forum ... ?f=29&t=87
http://www.practicalbrewing.co.uk/forum ... f=29&t=298

Since that last post Graham has had a stroke and although he is recovering he has more important things to worry about than writing some book

Get weller Soon Graham :thumb:

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Gethin79 » Sat May 10, 2014 15:06

Just ordered this book. Looking forward to trying some of the recipes :thumb:
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Will12283 » Sat May 10, 2014 16:31

Had my email off amazon to say it's on it's way :)

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby jkp » Fri Jun 06, 2014 07:36

Just noticed that UK amazon are now taking pre-orders for the updated version of this, due out 3rd July 2014
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Again it's just a repackaging of the 3rd edition with no changes to the content.
Only time will tell if it actually comes out.

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby ArmChair » Wed Jun 18, 2014 21:32

This book was fantastic when I started out brewing, I did a number of clones before I started on my own.

All the brews I did we're tasty and had similarities to the original ale.

Graham has put a lot of work and thought into these recipies
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby stout les » Thu Jun 19, 2014 14:07

Just bought this book on Tuesday. It's a very easy to understand book, as he said in the introduction he didn't want to complicate things. I've been brewing just kits for a while now & after reading this i'm going to start some extract brews & then all grain.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Will12283 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 17:25

Started reading this on holidays when I had a few minutes spare (not to many of them with a toddler). Really interesting book and simple enough without dumbing down to much.

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Scalli » Mon Jul 28, 2014 20:18

Very good read, but there is no mention of which yeast to use, how do the rest of you decide when brewing these recipes?
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Good Ed » Mon Jul 28, 2014 21:14

Well that's a whole different journey, each yeast has it's own characteristics which contribute quite a lot to the taste of the final beer, some say on average 75% of the flavour. You are limited with dry yeasts but you have a much wider choice of liquid yeasts. Just experiment until you find your favourite.

If you use dry yeast then SO-4 or Nottingham are your choice without contributing much, Windsor is good in darker beers. US-05 is good for hoppy beers but most of GW's are not these. Liquid I would choose WLP002 or Brewlab TV3 as my favourite.

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Dennis King » Mon Jul 28, 2014 21:19

Scalli wrote:Very good read, but there is no mention of which yeast to use, how do the rest of you decide when brewing these recipes?


Graham has stated in the past he omitted the yeast on purpose for several reasons. Unless you have your own experience with difference yeast you could do a lot worse than asking people here what they use. You may get a lot of different answers but one joy of brewing is experimenting.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Cornish Knocker » Mon Aug 11, 2014 17:32

Look at the price of this edition which actually is the edition I have got.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listin ... 1407774345

Anybody who wants it, I'll give 10% off. :whistle: and throw in free postage. :D

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Dennis King » Mon Aug 11, 2014 17:38

I've got that edition too. Half price anyone.
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby GrowlingDog » Mon Aug 11, 2014 17:46

I've got that one as well
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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby krazypara3165 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 20:32

I was watching this book on ebay last week, unfortunately i slipped up and it went for £3!!!!

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Re: Brew your own British real ale by Graham Wheeler.

Postby Cornish Knocker » Mon Aug 11, 2014 21:46

This edition doesn't have the Hopback Summer Lightning though :(

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