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Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Thu Apr 10, 2014 17:47

Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"...

A little dated now with improved extraction rates but well worth a read and i'm sure most on here will agree he was a brilliant brewer before anyone else had ventured away from Tom Caxtons and Boots best bitter.
Twas the first book i'd ever read from front to back 2 to 3 times with great interest each time...
A must for any brewers shelf.. 10/10 :clap: :clap:

Only worry is he died suddenly at 37... was it the beer? :o
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby 31bb3 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 18:33

Certainly a good book plenty of clone brews
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby EvansTheSteam » Thu Apr 10, 2014 19:09

It is believed it was the black, non food grade bins he fermented in that caused cancer.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Thu Apr 10, 2014 19:22

A true brewing God....

"Brewing Fine Ales in Barnsley Since 1984"
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Pints brewed in 2017.. 416
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby Dennis King » Thu Apr 10, 2014 19:41

That book changed my like. I stated brewing extracts for a few months then discovered this book. Born again.
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby EvansTheSteam » Thu Apr 10, 2014 20:32

He was all I had in the 80s, there was no internet never mind brewing forums!

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby FUBAR » Thu Apr 10, 2014 21:56

EvansTheSteam wrote:He was all I had in the 80s, there was no internet never mind brewing forums!


And perhaps a page or two about brewing beer in the Amateur Winemaker magazine each month.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby rpt » Tue Apr 22, 2014 23:42

This was the first brewing book I read but I'm not sure it's very relevant now. I can't see me ever following any of the recipes as there are so many other sources of better recipes now available.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby bobsbeer » Tue Apr 22, 2014 23:53

I still have that book which got me started brewing AG back in the early 80's. Some of the pages are a bit dogeared now and falling out. But a great book. :lol: I remember buying glucose chips. Don't see them nowadays.
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby Bribie G » Wed Apr 30, 2014 14:44

I have the newest edition, it's been "sensitively" rewritten as many of the original ingredients such as glucose chips are no longer available, as posted above, and many of the beers are long extinct.

There's a note on the recipes of old favourites no longer made such as Worthington E. I did a version of Double Diamond for a Welsh Mate who hasn't been back for thirty years and the tears rolled down his face. :cry:

Not a bad book if you're nostalgic or homesick whatever.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby graysalchemy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 14:48

got a copy of it on my desk though it was printed in 2002. I did my first extract out of that book courage directors. It was good though I didn't use it again and progressed onto AG and graham wheeler. :D

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby EvansTheSteam » Wed Apr 30, 2014 18:19

I must get me a copy of GW, never seen one yet.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby Springer » Thu May 01, 2014 19:30

GW was my bible, until I discovered a "Brewing Forum" ;) :D
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby EvansTheSteam » Thu May 01, 2014 20:25

Springer wrote:GW was my bible, until I discovered a "Brewing Forum"S

Who wrote that S?

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby Frogfurlong » Thu May 01, 2014 20:32

EvansTheSteam wrote:
Springer wrote:GW was my bible, until I discovered a "Brewing Forum"S

Who wrote that S?


If you read their terms of service.... Group Builder :evil:

People assume that Brewing is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big glass of wibbly wobbly... beery weery... stuff.
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby Sone » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:14

I have this book too, fancy getting a few brews on from it but have a question regarding hop AA%. Obviously they aren't printed in this book so what's the best way of getting the correct amount of hops into the brew?
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby 31bb3 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 18:51

Tha it's a case of just adding the relevant weight and hoping for the best then tweak if you do it again
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby mark1964 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 20:29

we got an old copy off ebay great book :thumb:

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby brugen » Wed Oct 08, 2014 21:25

All of Dave Line's AG brews include an addition of sugar of some sort. AG recipes today seem to be pure grain.

Anyone know the reason for the change? Have extraction rates changed in the last 30 years or is it just that Dave used sugar for taste. There seems to be a broad range of sugar types used in the recipes.

In the early '80s when we were young, poor and foolish his ESB was a staple in our shared flat.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby rpt » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:59

I'm guessing it's to do with the size of his equipment.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby brugen » Thu Oct 09, 2014 19:08

Postby rpt » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:59 am
I'm guessing it's to do with the size of his equipment.


Great theory which I hadn't thought of. If you look at his higher OG recipes such as Imperial Russian Stout and Bishops Tipple he downdials the volume to maintain the grain at about 4kg for mashing so the theory seems to work.

It doesn't hold however in the lower OG recipes. His Kings and Barnes Mild ale runs at 25l and he only uses 2.5kg of grain but he still adds 500g of brewing sugar to the boil.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby Monte Cristo » Thu Oct 09, 2014 23:48

brugen wrote:
Postby rpt » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:59 am
I'm guessing it's to do with the size of his equipment.


Great theory which I hadn't thought of. If you look at his higher OG recipes such as Imperial Russian Stout and Bishops Tipple he downdials the volume to maintain the grain at about 4kg for mashing so the theory seems to work.

It doesn't hold however in the lower OG recipes. His Kings and Barnes Mild ale runs at 25l and he only uses 2.5kg of grain but he still adds 500g of brewing sugar to the boil.

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Quite a few of the recipes in the GW book have the addition of sugar so not all pure grain :hat:

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby rpt » Thu Oct 09, 2014 23:59

Dave Line uses far more sugar than Graham Wheeler. All his recipes seem very dated now.

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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby PhatFil » Fri Oct 10, 2014 04:28

The log and kindling chopping analogy from this book for the mash has stuck with me, and when i first read it helped me understand things a little better.

its a well thumbed book on my shelf, cant say ive brewed any of the recipes, but as an introduction to AG brewing it shone a bright light into the dark mysterious corners of the art for me. Prior to picking this book up I had read a similarly titled book by the wine bod CJJ Cherry, another champion of brewing in black bin bags ;) which had wett my appitite for AG brewing but didnt make things anywhere clear as this Book..

If asked to suggest a basic brewing book for a newbie this would be a close 2nd choice after GW.. (mainly cos of the recipies in Grahams book)
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Re: Dave Line "Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy"

Postby EvansTheSteam » Fri Oct 10, 2014 07:24

PhatFil wrote:The log and kindling chopping analogy from this book for the mash has stuck with me, and when i first read it helped me understand things a little better.

I think you may be getting confused with Dave's "Big Book of Brewing".

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