Brewferm Grand Cru

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Dave1970 » Tue May 06, 2014 18:06

As with all the reports I've read on the Brewferm kits this is well worth a try.

Only makes 9 litres, but with a OG of 1075 and finishing at 1012 it came in at a whopping 8.3%. Made it with homemade Candi Syrup.

The downside of this kit is it takes a long time in the bottle to get any good but then keeps getting better, after 4 months mine was starting to get good, took 6 months to be very good.

It doesn't taste as strong as it is. Not a million miles away from Leffe Blonde with similar mouthfeel, colour's similar too, aftertaste maybe slightly more going on in the way of hop bitterness.

Overall, definitely one to try....but only if you're prepared to be patient :thumb:

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby JDGBrew » Tue May 06, 2014 21:45

Does sound a good'un this one!
Definitely on my to do list, thinking of doubling up and making with golden syrup.
If I get it on by the end of month, should be ready for Xmas! :)

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Conditioning - Brewferm Grand Cru - Razorback - Youngs IPA 7.5%! Citra/Centennial Wilkos Golden Ale. Brewferm Tarwebier w/orange & coriander. Rioja 25 bottles
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Dave1970 » Wed May 07, 2014 09:37

JDGBrew wrote:If I get it on by the end of month, should be ready for Xmas! :)


That's about right, it'd make a nice Christmas tipple :drink:

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby magick777 » Thu May 08, 2014 02:28

Strongly agreed, as a long term Brewferm fan, it's one of the best of theirs I have made. As said above, it keeps improving from three to six months in bottle, and probably not worth drinking it earlier than that. Tempted to buy another couple of cans now...

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby JDGBrew » Thu Jul 03, 2014 18:36

I've got two cans waiting to go on this weekend.
Made 1KG of (Amber) Candi Sugar and just waiting on some Safbrew T-58 from maltmiller to arrive and were good to go
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Going to give this 3-4 weeks primary then chuck it in bottling bucket for a week. Should have a good 4 months 3 weeks conditioning until Xmas :drink:

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FV1 - Coopers Aus Lager (Raspberry)
FV2 - Coopers Stout
BBkt -...
Keg1 - nowt
Keg2 - Citra Wherry (left over from wedding......I didn't hide it?!)
Keg3 - Empty
Conditioning - Brewferm Grand Cru - Razorback - Youngs IPA 7.5%! Citra/Centennial Wilkos Golden Ale. Brewferm Tarwebier w/orange & coriander. Rioja 25 bottles
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby JDGBrew » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:29

Just got this on today. Doubled up to 18L. 1kg amber candi sugar and two sachets of T-58 yeast. Image
SG was a lowly 1.066 compared to the usual 1.075.
Topped the wort up to 18.5L, don't think this can cause the 9point drop?
Mustn't have mixed well enough I guess.
Still if the yeast does its job and gets it down to 1.010, looking at around 7%

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FV1 - Coopers Aus Lager (Raspberry)
FV2 - Coopers Stout
BBkt -...
Keg1 - nowt
Keg2 - Citra Wherry (left over from wedding......I didn't hide it?!)
Keg3 - Empty
Conditioning - Brewferm Grand Cru - Razorback - Youngs IPA 7.5%! Citra/Centennial Wilkos Golden Ale. Brewferm Tarwebier w/orange & coriander. Rioja 25 bottles
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby fore » Sat Jul 19, 2014 13:23

Just to repeat what many say about these kits, but from the other angle.... these kits don't taste particularly good when relatively young. I get 2 flavours coming through, a good potential from the underlying kit, Duvel-ish, and a blood like flavour originating from the added sugar. I used cane sugar, so perhaps candi sugar might help, but I've never used it so can't say for sure.

I have 3 cornys, so will cycle the other 2 and let this one sit 3 to 4 months before I dig in. Previous Brewferm included Diabolo & Triple, and both suffered from the "blood" flavour. I'm letting this sit to see if I can get that unwanted flavour to deminish and achieve a cleaner flavour. Let's see.

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby JDGBrew » Thu Aug 07, 2014 09:27

Just a quick one regarding priming amounts as i'll be bottling this in a week or so.
With the double batch size will it require 180g sugar? seems a bloody lot that!
I know the style suits the high carbonation but it still seems a lot.
Any thoughts? Cheers.

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FV1 - Coopers Aus Lager (Raspberry)
FV2 - Coopers Stout
BBkt -...
Keg1 - nowt
Keg2 - Citra Wherry (left over from wedding......I didn't hide it?!)
Keg3 - Empty
Conditioning - Brewferm Grand Cru - Razorback - Youngs IPA 7.5%! Citra/Centennial Wilkos Golden Ale. Brewferm Tarwebier w/orange & coriander. Rioja 25 bottles
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby serum » Fri Aug 08, 2014 08:56

JDGBrew wrote:Just a quick one regarding priming amounts as i'll be bottling this in a week or so.
With the double batch size will it require 180g sugar? seems a bloody lot that!
I know the style suits the high carbonation but it still seems a lot.
Any thoughts? Cheers.


You can do as long as you use strong bottles. For some reason the brewferm kits I've done never seemed to end up that highly carbonated despite the large amount of sugar. I've never understood why.

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby JDGBrew » Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:30

Thanks for that, I'm just going to go for it! Got a few duvel empties now and will be using a load of the 750ml leffe bottles as well so should be sound with those.
Transferring to secondary when I can arsed then leave for a week and bottle.

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FV1 - Coopers Aus Lager (Raspberry)
FV2 - Coopers Stout
BBkt -...
Keg1 - nowt
Keg2 - Citra Wherry (left over from wedding......I didn't hide it?!)
Keg3 - Empty
Conditioning - Brewferm Grand Cru - Razorback - Youngs IPA 7.5%! Citra/Centennial Wilkos Golden Ale. Brewferm Tarwebier w/orange & coriander. Rioja 25 bottles
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby JDGBrew » Fri Aug 15, 2014 18:47

Quick update...bottling day :(
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Managed to get:
31 330ml (5 sol bottles were the bottom of the bottling bucket)
2 500ml
9 750ml

Got to give credit to rob at the malt miller for the corking idea...genius!

If anyone's interested in the belgian corks and corker...
http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.ph ... mit=%C2%A0

Also beerlover1983brew brilliant how to:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=thTgrDIkvzo

Works a bloody treat! Should be a good Xmas :cheers:

'I saw one guy loose a tooth lunging for a foaming mug and miss judging it'- Aleman

FV1 - Coopers Aus Lager (Raspberry)
FV2 - Coopers Stout
BBkt -...
Keg1 - nowt
Keg2 - Citra Wherry (left over from wedding......I didn't hide it?!)
Keg3 - Empty
Conditioning - Brewferm Grand Cru - Razorback - Youngs IPA 7.5%! Citra/Centennial Wilkos Golden Ale. Brewferm Tarwebier w/orange & coriander. Rioja 25 bottles
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby fore » Wed Sep 17, 2014 22:02

Just short of 3 months kegged, so I'm tucking into this one now. My early opinion stays the same; there is an aroma and flavour that I just don't like, sort of blood like. I'm pretty sure it originates with the sugar added, so could be different with say candi sugar or golden syrup. All said, this is an ok brew that I'll be happy to drink, but it's not found its way on my shortlist for trying again.

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby itbrvilla » Sat Nov 22, 2014 22:43

How you getting on with this fore? I have this bottled and can taste licorice when I drink it. Not sure what the herbs are supposed to provide to the flavour but I quite like what I have. Only a few months bottled so can only improve.
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Zod » Wed Feb 25, 2015 14:49

Picked one up today along with 500g of dark candi sugar. Will also add 100-200g of golden syrup. Sound about right?

Looking forward to drinking it in 2016.

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Zod » Thu Mar 19, 2015 19:18

Made this one yesterday with 500g dark candi sugar. Please remember to come back to this thread in a year so I can tell you how it turned out.....

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby calumscott » Fri Mar 20, 2015 00:06

It's still one of my favourite kits this. It took a while to mature, six months or so and it was excellent.
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Zod » Mon Mar 23, 2015 20:55

for anyone that brewed this, did you follow the 2 weeks in primary then two weeks in secondary that's recommended in the instructions?

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Monte Cristo » Thu Mar 26, 2015 20:19

This may upset a few people but just tried a bottle of Grand cru and it is really good now, the upsetting part is i brewed it may 2013 - nearly 2 years ago :o
It took so long to mature that i stuck it on a bottom shelf an forgot about it, so you might want to revise the 2016 Zod. :D

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Maysie » Thu May 14, 2015 15:39

I made a batch of this in May 2014 (it went into the FV exactly a year ago) and I initially didnt like my early trials, so just stashed it away and forgot about it. Anyway, as the weather had improved I fancied a lighter beer so dug one out and tried it again.
What a transformation! It is now absolutely gorgeous.

This is one to tuck away and forget about if you can bring yourself to do it. Your patience will be rewarded. ;)
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby ross » Fri May 15, 2015 23:21

Lighter, it's 8% isn't it?
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Monte Cristo » Sun May 17, 2015 19:22

ross wrote:Lighter, it's 8% isn't it?


8.3% mine, if you reckon that's light Maysie you must have one hell of a liver! :D

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Maysie » Mon May 18, 2015 12:23

I usually drink stouts/porters, so by 'lighter' it was the colour I was getting at...., ie a summer brew. I wasn't trying to pickle myself from the inside out! :D

And I stuffed up my brew by adding more water than was needed, so mine is around the 5% mark - which is a bit more like it! I seem to struggle with the Brewferm instructions for some reason. :doh:
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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Smudge » Thu May 28, 2015 22:16

Just had a bottle which was 3 months old and I have to say the best Brewferm kit to date. Used white candi sugar initially and primed with white granulated sugar. Came out a clean tasting Belgium style beer, which was high in a!cohol. Definite must do again kit, but need to use smaller 330mls bottles. Well worth the effort.

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby Zod » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:44

4.5 months in the bottle and my patience cracked. It's already quite an impressive beer. If this gets better as people suggest then i'm certainly looking forward to it.

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Re: Brewferm Grand Cru

Postby octoscott » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:31

JDGBrew wrote:9 750ml

Got to give credit to rob at the malt miller for the corking idea...genius!



Where'd you get the 750ml brown bottles? I can only ever seem to find green ones for sale.
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