Cascade/Citra

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Cascade/Citra

Postby Gethin79 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 21:23

So, I've just bought some ingredients for my first brew in around 2 years. I'm definitely a little bit out of practice but it's all starting to come back to me.

I've ordered some Marris Otter, Crystal Malt and Wheat Malt along with some cascade and Citra hops. Also 2 different strains of California Ale Yeast (WLP001 and WLP051 from memory). Going to try a similar recipe with 2 brews, but using the different yeasts as a bit of an experiment.

So, just a question, how do Citra and Cascade work together? My instincts tell me it should work, if I use less Citra than Cascade?

Aiming for a refreshing hoppy APA.
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Re: Cascade/Citra

Postby Gethin79 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 21:15

Well...no takers, so here's my recipe...purely guess work!! With a bit of help from BrewR.

Marris Otter 5 EBC - 4500g
Caramalt 30 EBC - 350g

Mash at 66C for 90mins

90 min boil

60 min Cascade 7.1% 30g
15min half protofloc
10min Citra 13.5% 30g
Dry hop Cascade 20g (5 days)
Dry hop Citra 20g (5 days)

Ferment with WLP001 California Ale Yeast at 19C...won't have time for a starter unfortunately, so pitched direct from the vial/packet.

Hopefully a nice and simple return brew, to be done on Easter Sunday.

Aiming for around 4.6% ABV and around 37IBU

Any comments very welcome before I get this underway!
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Re: Cascade/Citra

Postby rlemkin » Wed Apr 12, 2017 22:07

Sounds like a good place to begin and a nice simple recipe. I've never compared the various Cal. Ale strains, but WLP051 sounds like a nice inbetween the completely clean strains and a British Ale yeast.

Citra and Cascade will go just fine together. It's hard to ever truly know what ratio is best, but it's hard to go wrong.

Next time I'd be tempted to use a neutral bittering hop @ 60 minutes and shift that cascade into the final 15 minutes.

Hope you have fun!
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Re: Cascade/Citra

Postby Gethin79 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 22:43

Cheers.

That's a fair point on the bittering hop. :thumb: That's what has caused me the most issues. I initially bought the Citra, thinking I would use a small amount of that for the bittering, but then read that it gives a harsh bitterness, which I don't want. That left me with just the Cascade, which I didn't really want to "waste" on bittering.

When you say a neutral hop, what would you recommend? Maybe I can get something in for the next brew.
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Re: Cascade/Citra

Postby HTH1975 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 00:34

Good bittering hops... Magnum, Challenger, EKG

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