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Gales HSB

Postby duncans » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:30

Hi, looking for advice on brewing this beer.

A neighbour who kindly tests my home brew from time-to-time said his favourite beer was Gales HSB and wanted to brew one for him in return for suffering through my wierd concoctions.

There's a recipe from Graham Wheeler ...
Roughly Torrified wheat 6%, sugar 5%, crystal 3%, black 1%.

and reports that wy1332 Northwest ale is originally from Gales.

I have never drank their beers, even post Fuller's, and wondered if this looks in the right direction?

A couple of thoughts ....
Graham wheeler has fg 1010 but the wyeast strain is likely to be around 1015.
Graham Wheeler calls it "A complex, slightly sour strong ale..." I guess this sour is a yeast by-product rather than souring with lactobacillus / lactic acid?

Thanks
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Re: Gales HSB

Postby robwalker » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:56

Sour might come from the black malt, wheat and hops too. Or a bad cellar keeper.
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Re: Gales HSB

Postby Aleman » Sat Aug 27, 2016 13:00

The sourness comes from the wooden fermenting vessels that were in use at the Horndean brewery . . . which Fullers disposed of when they bought it :doh:

I've drank a considerable quantity of HSB, and the sourness isn't all that pronounced, so I wouldn't worry about it :D
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Re: Gales HSB

Postby Goulders » Sat Aug 27, 2016 13:03

I did a thread on this on JBK following a visit to Irvings brewery. Malcolm used to be one of the Brewers there.

Malcolm did say the recipe isn't quite right in Wheelers book. But roughly as above with 10-15% invert sugar (or Golden Syrup)! Apparently the fermentation schedule is key. You need to use Gales yeast and the first 24 hours is fermented at 23c.

Should finish around 1.013

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Re: Gales HSB

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Re: Gales HSB

Postby Goulders » Sat Aug 27, 2016 13:54

And here's an old video in this link
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Re: Gales HSB

Postby serum » Sat Aug 27, 2016 17:33

I've tried the fullers HSB and really like it. From cask I think it's better than ESB. I never tried the original though.

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Re: Gales HSB

Postby Dennis King » Sat Aug 27, 2016 19:32

You may be able to get the yeast from Brewlabs.
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Re: Gales HSB

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Re: Gales HSB

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Re: Gales HSB

Postby Goulders » Sun Aug 28, 2016 19:40

Gales yeast is a derivative of of Whitbread B. If you want it exact, you should get a slant or grow from a bottle of HSB. But I'm sure the 1098 will produce a good beer. Good luck and report back
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