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American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 15:03

I am looking to start my 3rd BIAB AG this weekend, and I recently asked for some help picking a recipe to go at on another site.
Someone came back with this, and I wonder if it is a little too complex for me? I am all for trying it though, I would just like opinions on it please.

I did intend to have a go at Nick's Silver winning IPA from this years HBF, but Citra seems to be non-existent at the moment!

20L in FV

Mash: 75 mins @ 65C
Boil: 60 min? 90 min?

EPMO 3kg
Munich 130g
Crystal 190g
Caramalt 880g

Columbus 2.5g - 60/90 min
Columbus 3.5g / Centennial 6g - 25 min
Columbus 18.5g / Centennial 18.5g - 0 mins

Columbus 100g / Centennial 100g / Cascade 100g - Dry Hop

OG - 1.048
FG - 1.010

Yeast: US-05 <-- Had a few issues with this recently, so I will defo rehydrate this time. Should I be looking at an alternative yeast at all? Or mash at a lower temp?


I am still not confident at all using the Beersmith app, but I really want to be.
I don't want to guess the water content or strike temp either, so I really need to get this nailed down.
Any advice on setting up a profile correctly, or do you have some other reliable method I could follow please?
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby robwalker » Thu Aug 18, 2016 15:46

Just input your figures as closely as possible. Brew using the timers and calculate your efficiency at the end. You need a sight tube on your boiler to get accurate really!
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby Dennis King » Thu Aug 18, 2016 16:41

You could try Must add I have not tried it myself.
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby robwalker » Thu Aug 18, 2016 16:47

Give it a measure with a 2L jug if you want a working figure. Not as laborious as it sounds, although not entirely accurate.
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 16:55

Thanks guys. Any thoughts on my equipment measuring question re dead space etc?

Any also, what about the recipe then? Think it's achievable by someone such as my rookie self?
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby Zod » Thu Aug 18, 2016 18:17

Looks like a pretty straightforward brew to me. I've brewed much more complex ones and I barely know what I'm doing :-)
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby robwalker » Thu Aug 18, 2016 18:55

I use ex pale MO in most of our beers and I don't find any grain derived dms in there - that said, 90 min boil won't hurt if you want to.

That is a feckin lot of caramalt actually lol, double check with him that's what he did, but if it works...it will be noticeably caramelly.
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby rlemkin » Thu Aug 18, 2016 19:41

Have a wee look at this sometime: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/20 ... -time.html. Quite good for thinking about recipe building.
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby robwalker » Thu Aug 18, 2016 20:13

There's no major science behind crystals really, just don't exceed 20% in general. Mostly pale beers might just want 1%-2% to sweeten them a tiny bit, scotch ales and Milds might want 20% to add a tonne of character and body. General rule of thumb for hoppy pale beers is to stick sub 5% for low abv, don't rush to use it above 6% as the sweetness is supplied by the pale...
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby Goulders » Thu Aug 18, 2016 22:22

Swap the Columbus for Chinook
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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby graysalchemy » Thu Aug 18, 2016 22:29

I would cut or even drop all those crystal and caramalts they will compete to much with the hops IMHO.

5% wheat malt is the only addition I would make to a pale, but then I hate crystal malts in a hoppy pale or bitter..

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

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Re: American Pale - Columbus/Centennial/Cascade

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Fri Aug 19, 2016 22:37

It all arrived today so I'll have a crack at it on Sunday of the weather holds up!
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