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The Brewing Forum • View topic - 1850 Again.
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1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:15
by Kyle_T
As some of you already know I made the Durden Park 1850 Whitbread Porter some time ago and recieved some very positive reviews, after a post on another forum about the same beer I feel inspired to brew it again, albeit slightly more accurately!

Having done one beer with Chevallier already, I was so impressed I went and obtained another 5 kilos, not for this beer originally but why not.

The recipe is essentially the same albeit I'm substituting the EKG for Bramling Cross and using Wibblers yeast again...Although this is a far descendant of the Whitbread B strain:

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A very simple and straight forward recipe, the FG should be higher to give 5.5% but what the hell, if it stops when it's supposed to, then super, if not, 6 is a nice round number.

Fermentation will be cooler than usual at 18°C as per Whitbreads schedule and a 3 hour mash at 66°C+/- any heat loss.

I will decide later wether I am casking in Stainless/Wood/Bottles and if I will bring it to the festival, the scheduled day is this Saturday and if I have enough spare I will send a couple out for a comparison review.

Cheers!

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:52
by BarnsleyBrewer
Be good to try a drink of this pal...... :drink:

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 13:11
by Kyle_T

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 13:14
by HTH1975
Looks awesome - where you getting Chevallier from?

How different to other UK-grown base malts do you think it is?

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 13:32
by Kyle_T
Supplied by The Malt Miller as usual, it is a different kettle of fish entirely, being an older variety it requires the extended mash to get all those busy little enzymes going, it seems to contain additional unfermentable sugars over Maris or other regular pale beers.

I mashed at 62°C last time and it did help with the attenuation issues but did result in a bigger dryness, the malt flavour and aroma is much more intense than standard varieties we have now, a real dark fruit/berry tone to it. Simply fantastic.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 14:20
by Dennis King
Going to buy some of this malt with my next order, sounds interesting.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 17:08
by Robsta
Save some of this for Thursday set up day m8 sounds like it will be a nice brew....

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:04
by Kyle_T

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 20:33
by Robsta
Guess its coffeee then this year

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 21:52
by HTH1975

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 22:42
by Kyle_T
It works very well in a Porter, my last beer was the Chevallier version of my standard 5% house beer.

Puts it in a different ball park, only downside is mashing it at 62°C has left it with a somewhat dry finish.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 23:01
by HTH1975

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 23:12
by Kyle_T
The yeast wasn't the issue, it was on the advice of encouraging additional simple sugars to aid fermentation, my next one I will be aiming for anywhere between 64/66°C.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 00:43
by HTH1975

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 08:49
by Rolfster

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 09:10
by Kyle_T
Nope, many historical recipes used 2 or 3 types of malt for the base such as Pipkin and Halycon.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 17:20
by PeeBee

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 18:26
by Kyle_T
No problem.

Just tapped and sampled Chevallier Porter No. 1:

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Flipping marvellous, a real richness and dried dark fruit flavour...I wish I didn't have to share it with my brother now

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 18:50
by BarnsleyBrewer
Is that Durden park book an essential read for a Brewer??

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 19:27
by Kyle_T
It is if you want real old recipes and some truly unique beers.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 19:37
by PeeBee
Only one left from this source: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095 ... UTF8&psc=1. But there will be other ways to get yer mitts on one.

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 21:07
by BarnsleyBrewer
You can buy them from their site, is it the right one with recipes?

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 21:12
by thepatchworkdoll
Hey Kyle
Ive gone on your reccomendation mate and just purchased this book for £10 off Amazon.
Regards
Patch

Re: 1850 Again.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 00:17
by PeeBee

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 08:57
by HTH1975
I've got Homebrew Classics Stout & Porter by Clive La Pensée and Roger Protz. It's got Durden Park recipes running all the way through it with comments about how to alter/improve things and technical info on how they would have originally brewed the beer (boil times and hopping rates etc).