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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby supersteve » Mon Feb 22, 2016 17:36

You shouldn't need to touch anything the beer comes in contact with, your hands shouldn't be going into the FV after you've sanitised it.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Mon Feb 22, 2016 17:50

Fair point, I'm just being over cautious!
I'm so nervous I'm gonna screw up you see!
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby f00b4r » Mon Feb 22, 2016 18:47

I always use disposable gloves post boil although others may disagree, there is a reason medical professionals actually get taught how to scrub their hands and fingernails properly and it is easy to sanitize your hands with clean gloves on (sanitation only works on already cleaned things).
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby Aleman » Mon Feb 22, 2016 18:53

Just remember we are making beer, not performing open heart surgery!
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby PhatFil » Mon Feb 22, 2016 23:56

basically its a numbers game we play when brewing. the air around us contains spores and microlife in abundence not to mention the bacteria and yeast that are crawling all over our skin..

and we are preparing a microlife baquet in abundance 5 gallons of it in most cases.

the probability of preparing a kit or any brew in a domestic environment and getting it into the FV and lidded without anything unwanted landing in there too is astronomical, you have a better chance of winning the lottery 6 times in a row,

Our secret weapon is the HUGE population of yeast we pitch in the billions of cells.
these out eat and starve off any competitive microlife in most cases, infections are rare when cleanliness and sanitation is carried out effectively.

just do what you can.. i use starsan and have used videne, in both cases I have a bowl of sanitiser to soak the bits and bobs that will get manhandled, the airlock bung or a corny lid for example, dipping my clean hands in to retrieve the items sanitises my fingers on the way in too ;)

i did get some latex gloves but my hands feel uncomfortable in them, hot n itchy after a lil while, but its not a bad idea to use em if you can stand having them on.

if you use starsan a trigger spray bottle is great for dispersing it into bottles or onto fv inner walls.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby robwalker » Sun Mar 13, 2016 20:02

I stupidly used perecetic acid hot the other day, what an experience that was! Like having pepper forced up your nose.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby cyclops » Mon Mar 14, 2016 08:48


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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:35

I've been using this no-rinse steriliser once the small tub of VWP I got with my starter kit ran out: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Harris-No-Rinse ... B00STG0G4W

It's running out and I am trying to work out the benefits and cost difference between buying this again (about £5 for 200g) or a small bottle of Star San HB for nearly £20! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-San-HB-Sta ... B00M9K79H6

The plus side would be no having to dissolve granules but it seems quite pricey.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby Aleman » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:44

Well your Harris stuff is only Percarbonate so nothing special . . . I'd certainly not use it no rinse . . .it's a cleanser with 'some' disinfection action.

Personally I's Use an 'Oxi' cleanser and either Star San (Yes it's expensive but you use 8.5ml in 5Litres!!) or an Iodophor as a no rinse steriliser.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:55

You wouldn't use it without rinsing, or you wouldn't use it? It's worked well for me although to be honest I reckon 9 times out of 10 just rinsing your stuff with water you wouldn't get infection.

Does the StarSan provide a way to get out only a few ml at a time? I typically only need 1-2L made up - drop the taps and stuff in a small jug, spray the FV with a plant mister.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:59

I had no idea about the "no soap" thing though.
I used fairy washing up liquid to clean out my FV the other day.
What SHOULD I be using then?
I got some VWP stuff in my kit I bought...
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby MrBoy » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:13

Oh, is SS stable once made up? THat's much easier, I was assuming like the stuff I have it deteriorates in a few days.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby Aleman » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:48

As long as you use the right water then you can make star san up and store it. I use Deionised or RO water to make it up. If you use tap water and it goes cloudy then you can't store it but have to use it that day.
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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

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Re: Guide to Cleaners and Sterilisers

Postby Dennis King » Thu Mar 31, 2016 17:53

The Malt millers own brand "star San" http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.ph ... ductId=497 and that's for a 500ml bottle.
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