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PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Jeltz » Wed Feb 21, 2018 00:25

My Braumeister, which I bought 2nd hand, came with a bug tub of cleaner. I have no idea what it is but its nearly finished now so time to invest in a new cleaner!

I have used Oxiclean from the pound shop but the local one no longer stocks it, I have also used soda crystals however I think that other than the mystery cleaner that came with the BM VWP has been my preferred option.

However many people talk about PBW and according to my maths its less than 20% dearer than VWP so if its a better option I'd be happy to pay the extra.

Any views or recommendations?

FWIW this is simply a cleaner for the BM, kegs and fermentors I use Videne antiseptic solution to sterilise and purple beer line cleaner for cleaning the dispensing system

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Aleman » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:52

PBW is the 'Nads, Unlike VWP doesn't contain chlorine based compounds so no risk to the Braumesiters shiney.

I reckon Oxiclean is about 75% as effective as PBW.

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby robwalker » Wed Feb 21, 2018 13:24

Pbw exists for a reason, Powdered Brewery Wash, it's a great product! No point spending hundreds on a piece of kit and then pitting it...safe on brass and copper too, so suitable for all manner of taps, fittings etc. most of the chemicals at work will rot brass/copper away fairly quickly.
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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Joe1002 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 18:52

Another vote for PBW here, it’s the dogs swingy parts.

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby HTH1975 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 20:53

I always used any cheap oxyclean, but since trying PBW I’ve been converted - it’s not as ‘soapy’ and the residue will shift quite easy if you leave it.

I did try going to caustic, but at home it’s nasty stuff to use so I’ve stopped using it.

PAA is still my choice for sanitising though - great stuff.

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Jeltz » Wed Feb 21, 2018 23:47

PBW it is then :thumb:

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Jeltz » Thu Feb 22, 2018 20:01

I'll see if the LHBS can get it in for me as I like to support him and he uses MM as a wholesaler.

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby serum » Wed Feb 28, 2018 13:53

I use malt miller's equivalent to PBW on my braumeister. It's a bit cheaper and gets it nice and shiny.

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Jeltz » Wed Feb 28, 2018 14:09

IIRC that is sodium percarbonate.

My local brew shop has just emailed to that and some isinglass is in for me now, I'll pop in soon and no doubt leave with other things too.

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Oldstunty » Wed Feb 28, 2018 16:08

HTH1975 wrote:
PAA is still my choice for sanitising though - great stuff.


PAA?

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Jeltz » Wed Feb 28, 2018 17:01

Oldstunty wrote:
HTH1975 wrote:
PAA is still my choice for sanitising though - great stuff.


PAA?

peracetic acid I believe

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Oldstunty » Wed Feb 28, 2018 18:14

Jeltz wrote:
Oldstunty wrote:
HTH1975 wrote:
PAA is still my choice for sanitising though - great stuff.


PAA?

peracetic acid I believe


Ah, the 2nd A threw me :thumb:

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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby Oldstunty » Wed Feb 28, 2018 18:24

Oldstunty wrote:
Jeltz wrote:
Oldstunty wrote:
HTH1975 wrote:
PAA is still my choice for sanitising though - great stuff.


PAA?

peracetic acid I believe


Ah, the 2nd A threw me :thumb:

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Just googled peracetic acid. Commonly called PAA! D'oh :doh: :doh:
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Re: PBW vs VWP or something else?

Postby HTH1975 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 13:25

PAA is essentially what we use in breweries once we’ve cleaned with caustic, then flushed with water. It will kill any nasties dead and it’s fast working (none of this 5 minute contact time).

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