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How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby HTH1975 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 21:22

Hi all, I'm brewing an IPA tomorrow and I'm a little short on my cascade supplies.

I was thinking of adding some grapefruit juice and skin to the boil to make up for this.

I don't want a grapefruit IPA 'bomb', just a subtle amount like you get from cascade.

Was thinking maybe half of the juice and zest of a grapefruit.

Anyone?

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed
Drinking: store-bought beer as my bar is dry
Conditioning: choc-coffee oatmeal wheat stout, various ciders, cherry 'brett' brown ale, imperial Pilsner.
Fermenting: Bock (6.5%), IPA (5.5%), Pale Ale (4.5)
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby robwalker » Sun Apr 09, 2017 21:44

There's a clone of Elvis Juice in the brewdog book, probably a good starting point.
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Sun Apr 09, 2017 22:04

I used it in my elvis juice attempt. Added juice and peel to the end of the boil and added it to secondary also. Got a beautiful flavour from it but unfortunately it also had a hell of sediment in there and the majority of my bottles ended up being gushes... No idea why but I ended up pouring most out in the end. My recipe notes are in the brewday section I think
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby HTH1975 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 00:12

Cheers guys. Brewday is over now - I subbed in some Olicana as it's the closest thing I had with any grapefruit flavour/aroma in its description.

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2017: 105L brewed
Drinking: store-bought beer as my bar is dry
Conditioning: choc-coffee oatmeal wheat stout, various ciders, cherry 'brett' brown ale, imperial Pilsner.
Fermenting: Bock (6.5%), IPA (5.5%), Pale Ale (4.5)
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby Brewzee » Thu Apr 13, 2017 06:12

after sipping on a bottle of Elvis juice i had the idea to sub grapefruit juice for ams...just cos its natural and I dont need to buy mail order. I never did but if someone out there has a ph meter i would be grateful if the could stick it in a grapefruit and some ams and tell me what it says. I get that ions and all that other motherjazz wont be the same but i might just do a 20l brew to test out my idea. so q is if i put 20ml ams in 17l of strike...how much grapefruit
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby Rolfster » Thu Apr 13, 2017 09:23

Brewzee wrote:after sipping on a bottle of Elvis juice i had the idea to sub grapefruit juice for ams...just cos its natural and I dont need to buy mail order. I never did but if someone out there has a ph meter i would be grateful if the could stick it in a grapefruit and some ams and tell me what it says. I get that ions and all that other motherjazz wont be the same but i might just do a 20l brew to test out my idea. so q is if i put 20ml ams in 17l of strike...how much grapefruit


Do you know you can download the whole brewdog recipe booklet in pdf form? It will have the (rough) quantity they use.
It's called diy dog I think.
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby robwalker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 09:49

HTH1975 wrote:Cheers guys. Brewday is over now - I subbed in some Olicana as it's the closest thing I had with any grapefruit flavour/aroma in its description.


Just did a single hop for the bar with that. the years crop wI used was poor hence why it was released to the public, but ultimately the beer was quite nice, not amazing.
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby HTH1975 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:17

robwalker wrote:
HTH1975 wrote:Cheers guys. Brewday is over now - I subbed in some Olicana as it's the closest thing I had with any grapefruit flavour/aroma in its description.


Just did a single hop for the bar with that. the years crop wI used was poor hence why it was released to the public, but ultimately the beer was quite nice, not amazing.


I was 5g short of cascade so only a small amount of Olicana used at 15 and 5 mins. Also dry hopped 30g of it last night along with 30g of summer. Will see how that fares on Sunday and possibly add 30g of Rakau too.

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed
Drinking: store-bought beer as my bar is dry
Conditioning: choc-coffee oatmeal wheat stout, various ciders, cherry 'brett' brown ale, imperial Pilsner.
Fermenting: Bock (6.5%), IPA (5.5%), Pale Ale (4.5)
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby HTH1975 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:23

robwalker wrote:
HTH1975 wrote:Cheers guys. Brewday is over now - I subbed in some Olicana as it's the closest thing I had with any grapefruit flavour/aroma in its description.


Just did a single hop for the bar with that. the years crop wI used was poor hence why it was released to the public, but ultimately the beer was quite nice, not amazing.


Did you get the claimed grapefruit and passion fruit flavours coming through? It's supposed to be quite an intense hop, but that's not what everyone who's tried it is reporting. Might be one of those hops where you really need to hit the beer with more hops than normal to get the best effect.

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2017: 105L brewed
Drinking: store-bought beer as my bar is dry
Conditioning: choc-coffee oatmeal wheat stout, various ciders, cherry 'brett' brown ale, imperial Pilsner.
Fermenting: Bock (6.5%), IPA (5.5%), Pale Ale (4.5)
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby robwalker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:39

Not really, it's more like a fruity English Hop. A bit of tropical maybe - quite easy to tell what will come through aroma wise when you open a 5kg pack, but like I say, we've all probably got the bad crop. It's nice, just don't expect galaxy or Amarillo.
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby rlemkin » Thu Apr 13, 2017 14:50

I've only ever used 1 grapefruit/gallon in two Berliner Weisse for 3 days.. Pretty damn strong. Zest of 1 or 2 per 20L would probably suffice for a hint.

Just in case the Olicana still isn't doing it for you ;).
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Re: How much grapefruit in IPA

Postby HTH1975 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 18:15

Cheers guys - think I might try the rind and juice of a small red grapefruit, or maybe tangerine (or both, ha ha). Could be worth an experimental 5L demijohn batch and just bottle the other 15-18L as it is.

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed
Drinking: store-bought beer as my bar is dry
Conditioning: choc-coffee oatmeal wheat stout, various ciders, cherry 'brett' brown ale, imperial Pilsner.
Fermenting: Bock (6.5%), IPA (5.5%), Pale Ale (4.5)
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