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Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Duxuk » Tue Apr 04, 2017 20:44

I've been inspired by another thread and fancy trying a saison. I'll use 40% wheat malt but with "lager malt" at £1.78 per kilo and pilsner at £2.98 I'm wondering if I would notice the difference in the finished beer. Should I just go for the cheaper option?

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby HTH1975 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 21:42

The way I think of base malt importance is to consider whether or not the beer is malt-focused. For hoppy beers, you'll notice the base malts far less or vice versa for malty beers. For a saison I'd use the Pilsner malt as it's malt and yeast focused, rather than hoppy.

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby rlemkin » Tue Apr 04, 2017 22:51

I would say lager tbh. Floor-malted bohemian Pilsner is something I would *consider* spending more for, but not just regular pils. Yeast is probably going to be the star of the show so go there first..
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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Duxuk » Wed Apr 05, 2017 08:36

Thanks for the advice. I'll probably go for a mixture of lager, wheat and Munich, to get the malty character.

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Brewzee » Fri Apr 07, 2017 05:51

am i the only one who does not like the taste of pilsner malt. just sicky sweet. Made my last lager with Maris O and it works better for me
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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby INDIAPALEALE » Sat Apr 08, 2017 07:52

Duxuk wrote:I've been inspired by another thread and fancy trying a saison. I'll use 40% wheat malt but with "lager malt" at £1.78 per kilo and pilsner at £2.98 I'm wondering if I would notice the difference in the finished beer. Should I just go for the cheaper option?


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https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.p ... t&catId=18

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby robwalker » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:06

Brewzee wrote:am i the only one who does not like the taste of pilsner malt. just sicky sweet. Made my last lager with Maris O and it works better for me


I resigned myself to a Heineken up the football the other week and god it was like sugar water. I guess there's a reason they aim for a very low FG
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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Duxuk » Sun Apr 09, 2017 16:27

I'll be overnight mashing, which helps with dryness.

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Strongarm » Mon Apr 10, 2017 09:42

robwalker wrote:
Brewzee wrote:am i the only one who does not like the taste of pilsner malt. just sicky sweet. Made my last lager with Maris O and it works better for me


I resigned myself to a Heineken up the football the other week and god it was like sugar water. I guess there's a reason they aim for a very low FG


I had a couple of Heineken at a gig recently, was £5 for my pint and £5.50 for the missus's 330ml bottle. It was dire.

Luckily realised they also were selling Camden Helles, so the remainder of the night I drank that, at £4.90 a pint.

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Duxuk » Wed Apr 12, 2017 09:20

Brewed now with 1kg Munich, 2.5kg Lager and 1.5kg wheat malt. 30g of Hallertauer blanc at 60 mins and 30g at flameout. I got 24.6l at OG 1054. It's fermenting well with Mangrove Jacks M29 yeast.

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Duxuk » Sat Apr 22, 2017 19:13

12 days in and the gravity is now 1003. I'm happy with that. The sample tastes very fruity with a definite wheat beer vibe. Carbed and chilled I imagine this will be very nice.

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby rlemkin » Sat Apr 22, 2017 20:14

Duxuk wrote:12 days in and the gravity is now 1003. I'm happy with that. The sample tastes very fruity with a definite wheat beer vibe. Carbed and chilled I imagine this will be very nice.


Sounds good. What kind of temp was it fermenting at?

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Re: Pilsner or lager malt?

Postby Duxuk » Sat Apr 22, 2017 21:26

I had the temperature in the low to mid twenties. My system is a bit primitive but I'm happy enough with what I brew so have only used environmental temperature control. The yeast suggested a range of 27-32C, so I was rather low.

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