Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredients.

Postby rlemkin » Thu Dec 04, 2014 23:09

A local brewery in Edinburgh (Pilot) has a beer filled with Parma Violets :party: and it was pretty damn amazing. Given that it'll be a while before I'm brewing again I think it could be fun to try and think up some crazy ingredients and things to brew that just might work.

I've been quite conservative in my brewing so far and primarily working on getting the basics right before I start experimenting. My first, rather tame, attempt was a blond ale with dried elderflowers and orange zest, although that was a bit underwhelming flavour wise.

I see a recent Brewdog beer had bacon in it... :vomit:

Have any of you experimented with unorthodox ingredients or have anything you think it could be fun to try?
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby AltonAnt » Fri Dec 05, 2014 09:29

Just look at any American brewing forum for ideas of what not to put in beer ;)
Mint, peanut butter, pumpkin, tequilla, chilli?????
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby graysalchemy » Fri Dec 05, 2014 09:36

Just remeber why these breweries are doing this (brewdog being the experts in it). Its all about publicity and ego not beer, they have businesses to run and need to stand out in a very competative market, so what do they do? come up with a gimmick which everyone tom dick and harriet in the beer world will hopefully blog tweet rave about.

These ideas may be ok for the odd pint but do you want five gallons of skittle's stout, or kangaroo testicle Pale Ale?

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby GrahamT » Fri Dec 05, 2014 09:49

:hmm: I'm wondering about using some of our Christmas tree

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby mark1964 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 09:53

i certainly won't be using any weird flavours in my beer, beer should be beer and that's all i'll be brewing.i need convincing even to try the coriander and orange peel in a wheat beer.

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby Pjam » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:11

Yes Mark ........ I'm still trying to get my head around using mad ingredients such as hops and barley.
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby wigwamheed » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:11

The recent byo mag has a recipe for chicken beer in it
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby calumscott » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:16

GrahamT wrote::hmm: I'm wondering about using some of our Christmas tree


Yes, yes and Oh Yes!!

If you want to know how good christmas tree beer can be, get your hands on "Tannenbaum" from Compass Brewery. It is very very good.
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby calumscott » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:18

wigwamheed wrote:The recent byo mag has a recipe for chicken beer in it


aka Cock Ale, as brewed by the legendary TubbyShaw. One of the many things about the demise of 'tother place that makes me sad. The cock ale thread. :(
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby calumscott » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:20

I'm interested in the "wild" bit. Fruit beers from hedgerows, archaic (pre-hop) bittering and preservative herbs, that sort of thing.

Be a long time before I can get the time to start playing though... :(
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby mark1964 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 13:29

why such a long time before playing with ingredients

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby graysalchemy » Fri Dec 05, 2014 13:54

He will have to wait for teh spring at the earliest to get hold of foraged ingredients I think.

Plus 2 small kids :lol: :lol:

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby calumscott » Fri Dec 05, 2014 14:22

graysalchemy wrote:He will have to wait for teh spring at the earliest to get hold of foraged ingredients I think.

Plus 2 small kids :lol: :lol:


Yup. That.
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby mark1964 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 14:42

I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby graysalchemy » Fri Dec 05, 2014 15:15

mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Probably because people have more sense than to discuss such things on a public forum :scratch:

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby AltonAnt » Fri Dec 05, 2014 15:23

mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Don't be as it has :D
Must be :vomit:
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby mark1964 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 15:47

Must be rank

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby mark1964 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 15:50

graysalchemy wrote:
mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Probably because people have more sense than to discuss such things on a public forum :scratch:

Sorry graysalchemy but we're all adults here. So it's OK for others to swear and tell obscene jokes. I think your going overboard and need to grow up.

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby calumscott » Fri Dec 05, 2014 15:56

mark1964 wrote:
graysalchemy wrote:
mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Probably because people have more sense than to discuss such things on a public forum :scratch:

Sorry graysalchemy but we're all adults here. So it's OK for others to swear and tell obscene jokes. I think your going overboard and need to grow up.


Wrong. He's right. Although we're pretty much the 51st State, we're not one that has legalised it. And discussing such antics on public fora puts the forum in the awkward position of having to serve up, on request, all the information requested by the police about that person.

Which we would, of course, do.

Which would make discussing such a thing on a forum such as this a very stupid thing to do.
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby rlemkin » Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:01

I don't want to criticise all breweries that use odd ingredients. Some beers do turn out to be fantastic, although many are gimmicks.

Foraged ingredients sound interesting too - but the only thing locally in Edinburgh I'd want to use is gorse flowers.

Some of the reading I've done on alternatives to hops have put me off.. few people seem to get good results!

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mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Don't be as it has :D
Must be :vomit:


Yeah, I think it has been done. I'm sure one of the raft of breweries in Colorado has given it a go since it was legalised - although beer is probably a product it's not allowed in.

Cannabis beer exists - we're not talking about making it ourselves.
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby mark1964 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:03

calumscott wrote:
mark1964 wrote:
graysalchemy wrote:
mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Probably because people have more sense than to discuss such things on a public forum :scratch:

Sorry graysalchemy but we're all adults here. So it's OK for others to swear and tell obscene jokes. I think your going overboard and need to grow up.


Wrong. He's right. Although we're pretty much the 51st State, we're not one that has legalised it. And discussing such antics on public fora puts the forum in the awkward position of having to serve up, on request, all the information requested by the police about that person.

Which we would, of course, do.

Which would make discussing such a thing on a forum such as this a very stupid thing to do.

I disagree as you say it's discussing it not actually doing it. A bit overboard like I said

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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby calumscott » Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:10

mark1964 wrote:
calumscott wrote:
mark1964 wrote:
graysalchemy wrote:
mark1964 wrote:I'm surprised no one's ever thought of cannabis beer. Would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone :whistle:


Probably because people have more sense than to discuss such things on a public forum :scratch:

Sorry graysalchemy but we're all adults here. So it's OK for others to swear and tell obscene jokes. I think your going overboard and need to grow up.


Wrong. He's right. Although we're pretty much the 51st State, we're not one that has legalised it. And discussing such antics on public fora puts the forum in the awkward position of having to serve up, on request, all the information requested by the police about that person.

Which we would, of course, do.

Which would make discussing such a thing on a forum such as this a very stupid thing to do.

I disagree as you say it's discussing it not actually doing it. A bit overboard like I said


I disagree with your disagreement.

"Any activity which is illegal under UK law may not be discussed or linked to either in the forums or via private message"

from here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=987

Them's the rules.
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby robwalker » Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:16

GrahamT wrote::hmm: I'm wondering about using some of our Christmas tree


Pine beers are excellent, and pine has bittering properties so a great replacement for hops. Just don't go nuts and it makes a lovely robust beer.

"Cannabeer" exists too :cheers1:
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby rlemkin » Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:25

robwalker wrote:
GrahamT wrote::hmm: I'm wondering about using some of our Christmas tree


Pine beers are excellent, and pine has bittering properties so a great replacement for hops. Just don't go nuts and it makes a lovely robust beer.

"Cannabeer" exists too :cheers1:


Quick mods! Ban him BAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan him :roll:

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Wood maturation is interesting. Siren have done some interesting IPAs with Cedar and other types of wood :drink:
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Re: Wild, odd, strange, fantastic and plain wrong ingredient

Postby Hawks » Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:37

No mention of Tubby's Cock yet.... :whistle:
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