Back on the brewing wagon - XX Bitter(ish)

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Back on the brewing wagon - XX Bitter(ish)

Postby serum » Wed Jan 17, 2018 14:32

Work has got in the way of brewing lately but with things getting quiet for January I managed a brewday this week.

I wanted something similar to De Ranke XX Bitter which is a Belgian blond with tons of bitterness as the name suggests. I took some advice about the hops and yeast from an article about them and I know it's 100% Pilsner malt. Mine should be a bit stronger and I also went all malt with mine which may or may not be correct. I had 6kg so thought I might as well just throw it all in. Similar with the hops as I'm now a few IBU above the actual recipe. Being Belgian they probably had some white sugar but I think it'll be decent anyway and maybe add a bit of a French touch to it.

De Ranke apparently uses Safbrew T-58 which makes this the first time I've used dried yeast in a few years! From what I remember I've only done it on one other occasion since I went all grain 3 years ago. One thing I want to test out is whether my yeast starters have been causing oxidation in my beer because I've noticed it a little and it seems to be the main flaw. It's not completely ruining them but they'd be a lot better without it and have more of a fresh vibrant taste.

Recipe for 20L batch:

Mash:
6kg Dingemans Pilsner
Mash in at 40C
15 mins @ 58C
15 mins @ 62C
30 mins @ 66C
15 mins @ 70C
10 mins @ 78C

90 min boil
65g Brewers Gold @ 60 mins (62 IBU)
Protafloc @ 15 mins
50g Hallertau Mittelfrueh @ 5 mins (5 IBU)

Fermented with 2 sachets of T-58 at 18C ramping up to 21 after 3 days.

OG: 1.064
IBU: 67
Beersmith says the final FG should be 1.015 but I think it should be lower than that.

I made it yesterday afternoon and the airlock was already bubbling by the evening making this the fastest start I've had with dried yeast.

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Planned: More Altbier, Kolsch, XX Bitter Clone
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Re: Back on the brewing wagon - XX Bitter(ish)

Postby Dennis King » Wed Jan 17, 2018 20:13

Good to see you brewing again.
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Re: Back on the brewing wagon - XX Bitter(ish)

Postby rats_eyes » Thu Jan 18, 2018 20:12

Back on the brew horse! Sounds good, hopefully there will be some of this left in April.

I've never thought about oxidation in starters working it's way through to the finished beer, but that sounds feasible to my non-scientific ears.
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Re: Back on the brewing wagon - XX Bitter(ish)

Postby Rolfster » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:35

Serum do you discard the spent wort from the starter before adding it to your fv?
Surely that's how to avoid the oxidation problem. I've only used liquid yeast a couple of times so I'm not really sure!
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Re: Back on the brewing wagon - XX Bitter(ish)

Postby serum » Sun Jan 21, 2018 00:57

Rolfster wrote:Serum do you discard the spent wort from the starter before adding it to your fv?
Surely that's how to avoid the oxidation problem. I've only used liquid yeast a couple of times so I'm not really sure!


No and I think that could be an issue but the timing always catches me out. I find it hard to accurately predict when I'll brew and lots of people said it's ok to just throw it all in. Crashing the yeast out takes a while with the ones I use. I can't always get the fridge space either.

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