NEIPA V2

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NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Tue May 16, 2017 19:07

Learned a few things since my last attempt, so hoping for a big improvement.
Switched the sulphate:chloride ratio around, in favour of chloride.

Brew length: 23L (BIAB)
ABV: 6.9%
OG: 1.061
FG: 1.008
IBU: 40
Colour: 10


Grain Bill

5kg Propino
1kg Flaked Oats
300g Carapils
100g Dextrose

Mash Temp: 65C

Hops

Denali // Citra // Mosaic // Azacca <-- 30g each at flameout (80C) for 20 mins

Denali // Citra // Mosaic // Azacca <-- 35g each dry hop at high krausen

Denali // Citra // Mosaic // Azacca <-- 35g each dry hop post fermentation for 5 days


Yeast

Vermont Ale (slurry pitch from previous brew, no starter)

Water

Calcium 126
Magnesium 10
Sodium 10
Sulphate 90
Chloride 188

Mash pH 5.21


Had a few issues with stuck fermentation recently so I really upped my insulation and managed to hold hold between 65C - 64C.
Tested pH and damn near nailed target as well.

Managed to hit both pre boil volume (33L) and gravity (1.049) but ended up with a little less in the fermenter at a slightly lower gravity of 1.058. No big deal I guess but still unsure why this happened considering my mash was to plan.

I used slurry from a previous brew but I've no idea if I over/under pitched... How do you tell?
Either way, it's fermented down to 1.014 in less than 48 hours of pitching.

Just dropped in 140g of the first Dry hop to see how this bio transformation thing works. I plan to rack and go with part 2 later this weekend/middle of next week.

Unsure about the 1.008 FG and whether it will be too dry for the style or even if I'll hit it, but I'm excited to find out!

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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby Mr Squiffy » Wed May 17, 2017 07:59

Looks good, I brewed one of these NEIPA's recently but I hopped it with Equinox, Azacca and El Dorado. Turned out really nice (not up to Magic Rock's Cannonball though). Have you added the dry hop as pellets? This is where I think Pellets are better then leaf.

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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Wed May 17, 2017 11:45

I’ve never used anything BUT pellets since brew number 1 to be honest!
I’m that used to them, I don’t really have any desire to use leaf hops I guess.
I chuck them in the FV and then crash to 1-2C for around 48 hours prior to racking, and generally speaking, I leave almost everything behind.

I missed my “high krausen” window for the first dry hop, which judging by the speed it has fermented at, would have been around 24 hours after pitching! It’s still fermenting however, so this biotransformation (if it actually is a “thing”) should still take place somewhat.
Never had a beer ferment this quick, which concerns me slightly as someone did mention I may well have overpitched – but with a yeast slurry, how on earth do you calculate such a thing?
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby Mr Squiffy » Wed May 17, 2017 21:00

That's the sort of dry hop process I did. A hop 'Charge' consisted of 10g of each of Azacca, Equinox and El Dorado. I added a charge into the fermenter and transferred the cooled wort on top, then added more charges at approx 48 hours, 100 hours and just before cold crash. Certainly a new way for me to dry hop. Repeated this process for my competition entry in the APA class but with different hops, see how it goes, it's not quite ready to sample yet.

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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Wed May 17, 2017 22:57

Mr Squiffy wrote:That's the sort of dry hop process I did. A hop 'Charge' consisted of 10g of each of Azacca, Equinox and El Dorado. I added a charge into the fermenter and transferred the cooled wort on top, then added more charges at approx 48 hours, 100 hours and just before cold crash. Certainly a new way for me to dry hop. Repeated this process for my competition entry in the APA class but with different hops, see how it goes, it's not quite ready to sample yet.


The only thing I'm yet to see side by side Is hopping under pressure vs homebrew style. This whole biotransformation thing has everyone doing things that normally they wouldn't do i.e. Dry hopping during fermentation as it drives off aroma etc.

I'm excited to see how it goes because My recent brews I've been very critical of yet the Homebrew club have given Me completely opposite views of!
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Thu May 18, 2017 09:56

Couple of good articles here with NE IPA tips and recipes from good sources.

http://byo.com/stories/issue/item/3550- ... le-profile

http://www.alesoftheriverwards.com/2015 ... d.html?m=1
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Thu May 18, 2017 11:07

Partial_to_Mash wrote:Couple of good articles here with NE IPA tips and recipes from good sources.

http://byo.com/stories/issue/item/3550- ... le-profile

http://www.alesoftheriverwards.com/2015 ... d.html?m=1


Nice links there mate, thanks!
Some of the guys were asking for tips and info last night at the meet, so I'll direct them there for some reading!
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Thu May 18, 2017 15:44

xCamel xSlayer wrote:
Partial_to_Mash wrote:Couple of good articles here with NE IPA tips and recipes from good sources.

http://byo.com/stories/issue/item/3550- ... le-profile

http://www.alesoftheriverwards.com/2015 ... d.html?m=1


Nice links there mate, thanks!
Some of the guys were asking for tips and info last night at the meet, so I'll direct them there for some reading!


Those two are pretty knowledgeable. Here is a podcast with an interview with Ed Coffey from ales of the riverwards. Discussing NE IPA.

https://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcas ... ng-hazy-ed
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:26

Partial_to_Mash wrote:
xCamel xSlayer wrote:
Partial_to_Mash wrote:Couple of good articles here with NE IPA tips and recipes from good sources.

http://byo.com/stories/issue/item/3550- ... le-profile

http://www.alesoftheriverwards.com/2015 ... d.html?m=1


Nice links there mate, thanks!
Some of the guys were asking for tips and info last night at the meet, so I'll direct them there for some reading!


Those two are pretty knowledgeable. Here is a podcast with an interview with Ed Coffey from ales of the riverwards. Discussing NE IPA.

https://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcas ... ng-hazy-ed


Finally got around to listening to this, thanks!
Sounds like I'm certainly on the right track.
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:30

So I managed to get this all bottled up on Tuesday.
I lost a fair amount to trub and hop debris, packaging 17.5L in the end.

It tasted great at this stage, much better than most of my previous brews when tasted out of the bottle bucket but I wont hold my breath until I crack the first one!

Fermentation was rapid with this one, the first in a long while that didn't stall as well :notworthy:
I hit 1.010 in the end, and the bulk of fermentation seemed to have been completed in 48 hours! It absolutely chewed through did that Vermont strain! I think it was virtually complete by day 3.

I'll update with photos/taste notes when I trial one next week.
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby HTH1975 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 17:59

Sounds lovely - defo a style I want to try brewing

2016: 330L brewed (72 gallons, over 8 firkins)
2017: 105L brewed (need to update this figure)
Drinking: Landlord clone
Conditioning: ciders from 2016, hedgerow barrolo, 1914 Courage RIS (10%).
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Re: NEIPA V2

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Wed Jun 07, 2017 22:54

Here's the first pour, 8 days in the bottle. This warmer weather certainly helps the carbing process, which is brilliant as I have to shove them next to the radiator in winter for about 4 weeks!!

It's certainly on the right track, and with the initial judging taking place a fortnight tonight, I think I bottled it just at the right time.

It's pungent, with a nice haze with next to no sediment in there, just how it should be. Taste is promising but clearly too early to judge it just yet. Image

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