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Hop vacuum packer

Postby Springer » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:25

Anyone know anything about vacuum packers and suitable bags for hop ? I have just been looking on the "Simply Hops" website. Example Columbus at £57.50 for 5 kg,plus vat and postage, :hmm:
Mrs. S wants a vacuum machine for the kitchen so I'm more than half way there. ;) :D
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby KevinS » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:41

I don't have a vacuum packer and so am by no means an expert (I would like one though!)...

Assuming you're keeping them in your freezer - I cant see the need for any special bags, outside of the usual ones a vacuum packer uses. My only concern with 5kg of columbus would be using it all up! :)

Purely speculation, but I am guessing pellets would seal better/easier that leaf - in terms of ease of sucking all the air out. But again, I am just guessing at this stage!

If you do get a vacuum packer and any of the US/New World aroma hops are available - I'd happily get in on that deal with you if you didn't mind packing/sending them ;)
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby robwalker » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:44

You probably have about 6 months tops to use leaf hops once they're open, years with a vac packer, it's a great investment! Might be worth having a word with a local brewery and seeing if they will sell or order you anything Springer, brewery delivery rates tend to be awful and if you slip em a tenner I wouldn't say no!
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Mr. Dripping » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:47

A vac packer is a good investment.
Loads of uses....not just hops.
Buy the best quality one you can afford would be my advice.
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Hairybiker » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:47

I've got the foodsaver model. About £40. Works fine for me. Doesn't like 500g of leaf hops at a time, but does pellets to that level.
I get the bags off ebay via Korea (where they are made) takes about a week to arrive. Go for the auction ones and you get a bargain on them.

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Dennis King » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:37

I have an Andrew James one. Does what is says on the tin.
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:31

I've got JML one, works great..... Best to buy when there's an offer on and go through Quidco to get cashback.

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Joe1002 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 14:50

I have split 5kg bales into 500g bags before, well twice before but never again. It is a real PITA. Pellets are fine but but leaf hops are real hard work, particularly the sticky ones like galaxy.

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Hairybiker » Thu Jan 28, 2016 16:57

Agreed. I was just re-packing some hops from the freezer earlier this week. Even 300g of loose hops takes a lot of handling. (and sticky hands) From now on if I am buying in bulk it will be pellets.

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Springer » Fri Jan 29, 2016 19:34

Thanks for the replies, learned a lot here. :)
I was a little surprised at the price of bags or rolls, even for basic food bagging :hmm:
I wonder if this will do the job :lol:
Won't fit our kitchen but could be a bargin for someone, not for me. :)
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby BarnsleyBrewer » Fri Jan 29, 2016 21:08

I agree it can be expensive especially to start with but if you've bought a reduced bale from Simply for around £50.00 then it's paid for itself. , and yes it is a PITA packaging them but well worth the effort when your still using fresh hops years later.
I bought 5kg of Centennial for £50.00 last year, and I can say it's one of the best things I've done, also bought 5kg of Challenger 5 years ago and still using them.

Good to buy 500g packs of yeast too and vacuum into little sachets that last for years.
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Pakman » Fri Jan 29, 2016 23:45

I got my vacuum sealer from Aldi when they had them on offer. It is really useful. When opening a foil bag of hops I reseal into a new plastic bag which is over large for the contents. from that point on I open, extract what I need and reseal. Works well.
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Hairybiker » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:40

THESE are the bags I bought, but I got them when they had an auction.
Nice and thick 6 layer, with a thick type back and a clear front. 28cm x 6M long.

I think the rise in cooking with them has pushed the costs up. Mind you my old vac packer bags were a lot thinner than the new ones.

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby GrahamT » Sat Jan 30, 2016 13:13

Dennis King wrote:I have an Andrew James one. Does what is says on the tin.


Mine arrived dead on arrival. Wasn't impressed, though maybe I was just unlucky. :cry:

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby INDIAPALEALE » Sat Jan 30, 2016 17:52

I have one of these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ORVED-Vacuum-Se ... B009WNY9CQ

A bit pricey but it works. Which is more than I can say for the cheapo one I bought first.

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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Springer » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:54

Thanks all again I have learned even more, but even more confusing. :D That big one is still only at £1.20
Can someone explain to me why the packaging of the hops is difficult, must be as several say so. All the ones I have ever used have been easy to handle :scratch:
I am assuming that a cheap version, will successfully bag leaf hops?
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Re: Hop vacuum packer

Postby Hairybiker » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:24

Why is packaging hops difficult?
1. They are loose, meaning they go everywhere when you try to move them from large bag to small bag.
2. in large quantities (>300g) they are bulky needing large bags = more vacuum to empty them
3. they can be sticky with hop residue so sticking to your hands/ the fresh bags/ the sealer/etc
4. there is a LOT of hops in 5Kg of leaf.

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