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Summit and Columbus

Postby Scott-Westy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 17:33

Just scored 500g each of these pellets. Any experience of using either?

Couldn't turn them down for £8 each.

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby mark1964 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 17:51

summit is really nice combine it with mosaic for a great apa. Columbus is just another yank hop but its good in a variety of beers. I use it in apa

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby rlemkin » Thu Nov 05, 2015 18:25

Columbus is great and exceptional value for money for a classic American hop. It can be a bit overwhelming so it's best blended with another hop or two in an IPA.
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby mark1964 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 20:37

second that its better used with others

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Strongarm » Wed Nov 18, 2015 17:09

I love Columbus and very different to lots of American hops. The flavour profile is massively different from citra, amarillo or cascade, say. It's really dank and resinous, rather than the fruit bombs of the aforementioned three. I made a SMASH with it for my first AG last year and will be making another in the next few days as I loved it so much, I'll bitter with a little (don't need a lot as it's v.high AA) then do 100 grams in the last 10 minutes and dry hop with 50gr, for my 22l-23l batch.

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Scott-Westy » Wed Nov 18, 2015 23:57

I fancied doing a simple pale with it, using a bit of magnum then all Columbus late on to get its full profile. Bargain for 8 quid!

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Pjam » Thu Nov 19, 2015 01:00

Yep. Columbus is overlooked IMO. Love it. I like to use it early and late. For some reason (no idea what) it's terrible combined with Summit ..... I've had a horrible onion taste! ...... And I'm not the first.
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby rlemkin » Thu Nov 19, 2015 08:29

Pjam wrote:Yep. Columbus is overlooked IMO. Love it. I like to use it early and late. For some reason (no idea what) it's terrible combined with Summit ..... I've had a horrible onion taste! ...... And I'm not the first.


That's probably the summit..
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Partial_to_Mash » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:15

I'm a big Columbus fan. Great in pales and IPAs, and I do a red ale with Columbus and Chinook that's fantastic. It's very versatile, great for bittering, good in the last 15 minutes, and a great dry hop too.
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Strongarm » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:43

I made a single hop Columbus ESB (although not so strong as efficiency lower than planned) this weekend. 10% Crystal 70l, half and half pilsner and maris otter (only because I didn't have enough MO for 100%), Wyeast London ESB yeast, IBUs just under 70, 110gr of Columbus in the kettle for 20 litres with another 50gr to go in as dry hops.

A couple of days in and it is smelling damn fine in the FV.

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Pjam » Thu Jan 14, 2016 22:56

Yeah, I still love the Columbus ........ The Summit I'm less sure about. I've used it and made some less than brilliant beer ..... though that might say more about the brewer than the the hops!
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Springer » Fri Jan 15, 2016 09:55

Just got some Columbus delivered this week, looks like I made a good choice for my planned APA, :D also some Willamette to go with it ?
Not a fancy hop person myself, normally stick to the boring sorts, :) at 90 and 15 mins, so we are in new territory here :hmm:
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Pjam » Fri Jan 15, 2016 20:40

Springer wrote:Not a fancy hop person myself, normally stick to the boring sorts, :) at 90 and 15 mins, so we are in new territory here :hmm:
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Gooooooo on , do a 0 minute 80c :cheers:
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Springer » Fri Jan 15, 2016 21:11

Pjam wrote:gooooooo on , do a 0 minute 80c :cheers:

More information needed.
Only a simple lad here Pj, I was planning on dumping my 0 mins hops in when I switched the boiler off?
So what are you saying here. :D
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby abeyptfc » Sat Jan 16, 2016 01:06

500g for £8 where did u get that from? a 100g of nelson sauvin costs that much!
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Pjam » Sat Jan 16, 2016 17:30

Springer wrote:
Pjam wrote:gooooooo on , do a 0 minute 80c :cheers:

More information needed.
Only a simple lad here Pj, I was planning on dumping my 0 mins hops in when I switched the boiler off?
So what are you saying here. :D
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I always did as you suggest, '0 mintue hops at flame out', you get a bit more 'hop bang' by waiting till it's cooled to 80c ...... which only takes a minute or 2 with the copper coil and then waiting 30 mins before your final cool down.
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Springer » Sat Jan 16, 2016 19:23

Aaaarh see what you mean :D
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Scott-Westy » Thu Jan 21, 2016 14:41

abeyptfc wrote:500g for £8 where did u get that from? a 100g of nelson sauvin costs that much!

A guy on FB UKCBN was selling off hops after he ordered a load in bulk. Right place right time I guess.

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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby KevinS » Thu Jan 21, 2016 18:00

I just re-read this and remembered I just had an all Summit IPA the other day. I have used columbus before and echo the comments of others, but the summit IPA for some very odd reason - tasted very much like Branston pickle.

Feel free to make of that what you will - not saying good or bad, depends how much you like Branston pickle :whistle:
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Rolfster » Sat Jan 23, 2016 09:51

I had a Columbus and cascade beer last night. I'm just getting ready to put an order in with Rob and theyare both on the list!
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby Pjam » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:15

KevinS wrote: the summit IPA for some very odd reason - tasted very much like Branston pickle.

Feel free to make of that what you will - not saying good or bad, depends how much you like Branston pickle :whistle:



You are right. :geek: I've used it twice and both times got an odd taste, not a taste liked TBH. It took ages before I tracked it down to the Summit. The Branston pickle has onions in it.......... right?

Google Summit hops and onions and you'll find Kevin and me are not alone!
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Re: Summit and Columbus

Postby ockelford » Fri Feb 19, 2016 17:58

Pjam wrote:
KevinS wrote: the summit IPA for some very odd reason - tasted very much like Branston pickle.

Feel free to make of that what you will - not saying good or bad, depends how much you like Branston pickle :whistle:



You are right. :geek: I've used it twice and both times got an odd taste, not a taste liked TBH. It took ages before I tracked it down to the Summit. The Branston pickle has onions in it.......... right?

Google Summit hops and onions and you'll find Kevin and me are not alone!


I'm very interested in this... I have some summit, bought as it promised stone fruit! Onion/garlic isn't in my list of flavours to cram into a juicy IPA, so I was wondering - did you boil the Summit or was it dry hopped? I#m hopping it could give the stone fruit if it isn't boiled, but I fear this is just wishful thinking!

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