Lentil Brew / Wash

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Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:02

Thought I'd give this a go on a larger scale.

5.5KG sugar @ 25L
50 grammes of Allinsons bread yeast
500 grammes of red split lentils.

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And with that, I'm off on holiday for two weeks! I'll check in at some point!
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby bobsbeer » Fri Jul 11, 2014 22:18

What are you planning for the end result?
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Sat Jul 12, 2014 09:21

Not sure, depends what it tastes like on its own!
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby bobsbeer » Sat Jul 12, 2014 09:33

With the ingredients you have you are only making a wash of around 12%? Assuming the bread yeast takes you down to .990. Not particularly high ABV on it's own..
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby johnsaunders » Sat Jul 12, 2014 09:51

This could be a stupid question. But what do you do with the wash when it's finished? I would imagine it doesn't taste that great by itself.

Also. Why so much yeast. Doesn't a small amount of yeast multiply rapidly in the fermentation vessel?

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:01

It could be further refined, but discussion of it here isn't allowed plus it's not legal. But really doesn't stop people..

I wanted to make it purely because I can. See what it tastes like, if it's foul it's cost me about £4 to find out..
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby johnsaunders » Sat Jul 12, 2014 16:10

BrewWoo wrote:It could be further refined, but discussion of it here isn't allowed plus it's not legal. But really doesn't stop people..

I wanted to make it purely because I can. See what it tastes like, if it's foul it's cost me about £4 to find out..


Why would this be illegal. It's not using distillation processes and why is talk about this not allowed?

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby Frogfurlong » Sat Jul 12, 2014 16:35

cyberheater wrote:
BrewWoo wrote:It could be further refined, but discussion of it here isn't allowed plus it's not legal. But really doesn't stop people..

I wanted to make it purely because I can. See what it tastes like, if it's foul it's cost me about £4 to find out..


Why would this be illegal. It's not using distillation processes and why is talk about this not allowed?


It was "further refined" that hinted at distillation, this forum does not discuss distillation because it is illegal here in the UK without a licence.

People assume that Brewing is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big glass of wibbly wobbly... beery weery... stuff.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby johnsaunders » Sat Jul 12, 2014 16:53

Frogfurlong wrote:t was "further refined" that hinted at distillation, this forum does not discuss distillation because it is illegal here in the UK without a licence.

I didn't pick up on that hint.

I was wondering if people used the wash with diluting juice or a cheap bottle of wine to make it drinkable.

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby chrig » Sat Jul 12, 2014 18:17

I've got some in bottles and it tastes very yeasty and seems to have an odd lentley flavour.

Mine came out about 12%, some has a bit of oak thrown in... Which I expect won't do anything at such a low abv.

I also bottled some with priming sugar and watered down to 6%. The taste and smell makes it undrinkable even with lots of flavouring.

I'd planned to re make it with wine yeast, but my wife got involved with my brewing.... :lol:

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby robwalker » Sat Jul 12, 2014 18:29

you need this to clear it out even for a non-d word wash.

http://www.brew2bottle.co.uk/still-spir ... nings.html

but truth be told all these washes are good for is the naughty thing, you certainly wouldn't drink them.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby chrig » Sat Jul 12, 2014 18:37

I would mostly agree with that, nice to play with though

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Sat Jul 26, 2014 13:33

Nothing out the airlock, but it's still bubbling away. I'm thinking it may just be co2 from the crud at the bottom being disturbed?

Either way it's clearing a little on its own. Will rack it off in a week or so to make sure it's definitely finished fermentation.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:25

Still haven't gotten around to adding any finings to this, siphoned off a little under a gallon into a plastic water container. It's pretty clear on its own. I don't think it'll need any harsh activated carbon treatments as suggested further up the thread.

Just going to try this gallon with some normal finings.

Here's what it looks like at the moment.

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby calumscott » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:37

Won't the carbon take out some of the colour?
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:51

calumscott wrote:Won't the carbon take out some of the colour?


Yes and no. It'll take out the yellowish tinge caused by the red lentils, but impart it's own grayish tinge from the charcoal instead, from a cost to benefit ratio, it's not worth it.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby calumscott » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:27

BrewWoo wrote:
calumscott wrote:Won't the carbon take out some of the colour?


Yes and no. It'll take out the yellowish tinge caused by the red lentils, but impart it's own grayish tinge from the charcoal instead, from a cost to benefit ratio, it's not worth it.


Well that's today's learning done... :) :thumb:

What ABV are you up to there?
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby johnsaunders » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:43

Have you tried tasting it yet? What does it taste like?

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:32

I've no idea of the abv % as I didn't take a reading before or after. It tastes terrible and smells like vinegar. Though I've tasted it before adding any finings/not the finished product.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby johnsaunders » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:55

BrewWoo wrote:It tastes terrible and smells like vinegar.


I was hoping you would say it tastes quite neutral. Shame.

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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 17:19

cyberheater wrote:
BrewWoo wrote:It tastes terrible and smells like vinegar.


I was hoping you would say it tastes quite neutral. Shame.


I'll give it a proper taste once the finings have done their job. It's a lot clearer already and it's only been a couple of hours.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby oldjiver » Fri Aug 01, 2014 18:03

Nasty tastes in = Nasty tastes out. Stick with things like oranges or juniper berries, or grape juice that taste good before you fiddle with them.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 19:13

Again, this was never made with the intention of it being nice to drink. Merely as a test to see how it would turn out.
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Re: Lentil Brew / Wash

Postby BrewWoo » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:18

Not quite 24 hours and it's pretty clear. Clear enough to read through. The smell seems to have changed as well, doesn't smell at all like vinegar, and tastes of.. nothing much. Doesn't taste like anything I've had before, but doesn't have a distinctive taste.

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