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Plum wine

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Re: Plum wine

Postby oldbloke » Sun Nov 23, 2014 00:08

If you don't need the fermenter for anything else and it's not got lots of crap on the bottom, leave it as long as you can before bottling
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Re: Plum wine

Postby Kermie » Mon Nov 24, 2014 08:05

ok, thanks, there is only a little bit of light sediment so I will leave them for now.
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Re: Plum wine

Postby shroomy » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:54

Don't forget to try the good old bullace if you can find them goes well with sloes as well nice taste :-)
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Re: Plum wine

Postby Crastney » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:42

I've just started another batch of plum damson wine, and thought I'd come on here for a sanity check. Here's what I did this morning.
3lb of damsons and juice of an orange got on Sunday, destoned, and in a jar had started to ferment so defrosted the plums and damsons from the freezer, 4lb roughly, added those with 500g bag of raisins blitzed. Poured on boiling water then 2CT, 1/2tsp stabiliser, 1/2tsp pectolase, stirred, and left to cool.

I will have to add nutrient and yeast in a day or so, but wondering how many Gal this will make?
How many of my DJs of other stuff do I have to bottle? 1, 2, or 3?

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Re: Plum wine

Postby oldbloke » Tue Sep 06, 2016 14:09

7lb of fruit, 8 if you count the raisins...
2 gallons easy, 3 at a stretch. I'd go for two: more flavour and less sucrose to add.
In fact, on reflection, definitely 2.
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Re: Plum wine

Postby Crastney » Tue Sep 06, 2016 20:29

And should I follow CCJ Berry on the amount of sugar to add?

4lb fruit to 4lb sugar?

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Re: Plum wine

Postby oldbloke » Tue Sep 06, 2016 20:43

No, he tends to be too sweet (or strong, if you get it to fully dry)
Find Moley's list of sugar content of various fruits (pretty sure it's in the wine section somewhere), work out roughly what you have;
Decide your desired ABV and use the rule of thumb that 20g/litre = 1%
Calculate how much sugar to add
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Re: Plum wine

Postby gregles » Tue Sep 06, 2016 21:06

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Re: Plum wine

Postby oldbloke » Tue Sep 06, 2016 23:00

Well, that's the fruit/sugar list.

I find the rule of thumb 20g/l=1% is good enough (90g/gallon=1%, 1350g/gallon=15%)
I generally go for a total sugar of about 1250g

You have 4lbs plums at 10% sugar, about 1820g, 182g sugar. Making 2 gallons, that's a bit over 90g each. So you want to add about 1.16kg each, 2.32kg total, to get to around 13-14%. The raisins will add a bit, but then you'll lose some when you rack and top up with water. It's all a bit handwavy anyhow.
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Re: Plum wine

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Re: Plum wine

Postby gregles » Tue Sep 06, 2016 23:21

7 pounds would give 7x45.4 = 317.8g
Split between 2 djs would give roughly 160g so would need to add around 1100g sugar to each demi john to get to around 1250g per gallon.
I would wait for confirmation from someone else before I believed me though :P

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Re: Plum wine

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Re: Plum wine

Postby gregles » Tue Sep 06, 2016 23:49

Feel free to delete my posts too
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Re: Plum wine

Postby gregles » Tue Sep 06, 2016 23:50

You have kept me right so far and it is much appreciated
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Re: Plum wine

Postby Crastney » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:16

So 3lb damsons 4lb plums 500g raisins 250g dextrose already added, going like a train today.

4lb at 10% =~ 180g sugar, 3lb at 9% =~ 120g, 500g raisins (grapes at high end) 20% = 100g sugar, plus 250g dextrose gives total sugar so far =~ 650g

I want 12% ish wine which is 1080 ish g/gal 2160 for 2gal so need to add ~1.5kg more sugar.

Yes?

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Re: Plum wine

Postby oldbloke » Sat Sep 10, 2016 17:27

Looks right
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Re: Plum wine

Postby Crastney » Fri Nov 04, 2016 17:13

I may have ruined my plum/damson wine this year - I'd left it on the pulp in the FV till yesterday! I siphoned the juice off, and filtered/sieved the pulp to get all the juice out, the SG was 0.996 and the pH was 3.2 - it tasted like my recent cider did, a bit 'hot alcohol'/pear drops kind of flavour, very dry.
anyway, I took 1 gallon into a brown DJ, and 2/3 gallon onto 1/3 gallon of the other cider that wasn't great, and we'll see how they all go. leave to mature I think.

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Re: Plum wine

Postby oldbloke » Fri Nov 04, 2016 21:40

The last plum I did seemed to magically lose all its colour and almost all its flavour after a year. Very odd.
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