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champagne yeast

Postby krazypara3165 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 08:49

Doing a 15l Batch of elderflower and grapefruit wine/champagne. originally planned on having 10l as wine and 5l as champagne and using a generic wine yeast and (is it?) ec1118 champagne yeast.

Rather than using two packets of seperate yeast could I use the other half of the champagne yeast for the wine? how much will the taste differ?

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Re: champagne yeast

Postby Frogfurlong » Thu Jun 26, 2014 09:28

Champagne yeast is tolerant of higher alcohol than other strains, it has to be to achieve secondary fermentation in the bottle to produce the fizz. It makes perfectly good table wine too.

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Re: champagne yeast

Postby krazypara3165 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 09:43

Cheers, I am intrigued as to what influence it makes to the taste of the wine. considering youngs wine yeast is so cheap I'll split the batch into 3 DJ's.

DJ 1. add the champagne yeast and carbonate.
DJ 2. add the champagne yeast and leave still.
DJ 3. add the wine yeast and leave still.

With all this talk about different yeast having certain effects to the taste it will be interesting to see if an beginner wine maker like me can taste the difference.

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Rhubarb Wine, WOW rose', Elderberry wine, Mixed berries wine, Elderflower and grapefruit wine, Elderberry wine.

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Re: champagne yeast

Postby Frogfurlong » Thu Jun 26, 2014 09:45

I tend to use youngs as my go to yeast for most of my winemaking, the more specialised yeasts I save for "specials".

That said I've not made a "special" in years :lol:

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Re: champagne yeast

Postby EvansTheSteam » Thu Jun 26, 2014 09:49

krazypara3165 wrote:youngs wine yeast is so cheap

In my experience, you tend to get what you pay for!
I use Champagne yeast for both Mead and Cider.

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Re: champagne yeast

Postby bobsbeer » Thu Jun 26, 2014 09:50

Not sure what strain Youngs use as their Champagne yeast, but if it's similar to EC1118 you should be fine.
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Re: champagne yeast

Postby Aleman » Thu Jun 26, 2014 09:57

Wine yeasts don't tend to be all that different to one another, although I would always use a varietal if I was aiming to produce a regional wine style. . . . generic wine yeasts like youngs also work well for Vin de Table (from that well known French wine region Table).

Champagne yeast is one of the oddballs, in a decent grape must it is more than capable of producing that 'rising bread' aroma, which is characteristic of a fine champagne, and yet throw it in a apple must and it produces a clean dry cider. It is capable of fermenting to quite high alcohol levels which is why it is recommended as a restarter yeast for stuck ferments, and also to help finish a strong Imperial stout or Barley wine. . . but also remember that most Champagnes are really only a fizzy table wine so around 11.5 to 12%

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Re: champagne yeast

Postby krazypara3165 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:24

cheers gents!

the champagne yeast I have is ec1118 however as I only need it for one DJ the rest will go to waste which is why I thought of adding it to the standard wine. by the sounds of it there may not be much if any difference. but it will be interesting to see.....

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Bottled:
Galaxy Pale Ale, Woodfordes Wherry, Bella Brew Pale Ale, Strawberry and vanilla Pale Ale, Mixed fruits cider, Elderflower and grapefruit fizz.

Maturing:
Rhubarb Wine, WOW rose', Elderberry wine, Mixed berries wine, Elderflower and grapefruit wine, Elderberry wine.

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German Pilsner, Guinness Clone, Chateau De Roi selection kit, Strawberry and lime cider.
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