Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 21:53

I need a side drain as I have to me able to move the pot for brewing, so bottom drain is out. Think I need to research more lol

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby PhatFil » Tue Feb 10, 2015 01:45

with a thermopot its do able to have a bottom drain exiting thru the side of the bottom skirt..
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in fact imho its a lot easier than cutting a side exit hole as when going in thru the bottom the damage caused isnt a problem as its underneath and not visible ;)

the snag is to get a 90 degree bend fixing to fix to the drain fitting, and point centrally thru the skirt without resting on the valve u fit takes a bit of grinding down and is a job for a belt sander especially if using SS bits, however i did spot another brewers posts somewhere where an alternative low profile elbow from a heating suplier was used to cut down on the grinding needed..

fyi the ground down elbow and skin fitting i ground to fit in my tun..
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 13:48

They does look good. My plan is to buy the thermo with tap from bergland (saves me some effort cutting holes) then add the false bottom and that's my mash tun done. Had a price back from mrlard and it's a bit more than I'm looking to spend so it's back to searching for now.

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby PhatFil » Tue Feb 10, 2015 15:16

the bergland supplied tap will be a smaller, and not easy to connect to inside and out to make the siphon to minimise the deadspace, so i think you could be looking at enlarging the hole anyway??? or using smaller than the usual 1/2" fittings.. have u found a build guide to follow?

if attending the beer festival and could wait till then you could bring the tun along and get some help with the holes n fittings?? Im assuming there will be a few folk bringing along the toolkit along with the beer..
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 22:24

Is there anyone here who has had the bergland taps fitted? Anyone who can give me an idea of the size please?

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Aleman » Tue Feb 10, 2015 22:30

Thread is 3/8ths near as dammit. I have a video somewhere showing how to replace it. IIRC it swaps for a 15 mm ball valve with compression fit ends. . .yeah I know 15 mm is bigger than 3/8ths. . . But we are talking thread sizes

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 13:22

I hadn't thought about it being a catering tap, so more cost to factor in. Back to he drawing board for now then

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 23:11

Is there anyone in South Wales who could help with hole cutting if I did go for a thermo pot

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby PhatFil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 00:04

its an awful lot more daunting a job than a difficult one, a plan and the right tools are the secret.

most of the tools should exist in yours or a pals toolbox, worst comes to worst u can always buy from argos n return within 28 days ;) not that ive ever done that hrumph!!

the hardware costs can add up tho.... £8 ebay stepper drill bits can cut a drain hole but a qmax punch is much easier and cleaner..

when doing my tun i prevaricated way longer than it actually took to do..

my #1 tip learnt the hard way is to pierce SS skins with a sharp punch/nail/screw before opening up with incrementally larger standard hss drill bits.. saves lots of time and snapped drill bits that does..
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Aleman » Fri Feb 13, 2015 13:27

Aleman wrote:Thread is 3/8ths near as dammit. I have a video somewhere showing how to replace it. IIRC it swaps for a 15 mm ball valve with compression fit ends. . .yeah I know 15 mm is bigger than 3/8ths. . . But we are talking thread sizes

Bugger I was developing a "How to . . . Replace the tap on a Thermopot" on the other place . . . unfortunately it's in the HT development area which I now no longer have access to . . . I'll have to see if I can find the pictures and video. I think it cost me the whole amount of 2.50 for the tap from Screwfix.

The Guide to replacing a Thermopot tap can be found >>> Here <<<

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 18:00

Just seen the guide. Not as bad as I though it would be. Need to decide if I really need a thermo pot when I haven't even brewed a single AG yet (still doing kits as it's easier till I get time to sort the shed)

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Adrian_98_uk » Fri Feb 13, 2015 18:36

I'm probably going to buy a couple of Q-maxx cutters! I'll let you know when I'm done with them


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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby PhatFil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 19:44

its a tough decision, a budget cold box mod starts to look like a bad idea when the circa 25l volume of the cheaper boxes is considered, then the cost of a nice 45- 50l (q?) well insulated box isnt that far off the cost of a virgin thermopot.

if you can find a suiatable cold box, dont fret too much about its quality you can always pile old coats, a sleeping bag or even the dirty laundry over n around to add extra insulation..

and while SS pot based kit is quality and durrable many a grand pint has been brewed in a placky set up the equipment dosent brew the beer, it just helps..

keep an eye on this ebay seller for more of these which are a viable option imho
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gatorade-36-L ... 2c94a73aa6

he has some 26l ones, which may be a bit small tho..
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Raptor » Fri Feb 13, 2015 20:03

PhatFil wrote:
keep an eye on this ebay seller for more of these which are a viable option imho
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gatorade-36-L ... 2c94a73aa6


I recently bought and converted a 36L one and it works very well - epecially for the price.
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Will12283 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 21:35

I have a cool box already, it's converted with a ball valve but I need to sort out the inside and insulation. A thermo with false bottom would not only cut the dead space but also save me time

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby darren west » Sat Apr 25, 2015 22:40

is there a link to but them
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby Rolfster » Sun Apr 26, 2015 20:06

Its Bergland catering. Its an email rather than a website.
here is there e mail
Catering-Portal.Bergland@msg.afterbuy.de
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby darren west » Sun Apr 26, 2015 20:16

i have emailed them
i want a 70l pot
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby PhatFil » Sun Apr 26, 2015 22:32

to check out what they sell goto ebay.fr and search for "inox marmite" now you have the email addy you can spot the seller easily enough..
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby naturals » Sun Nov 06, 2016 19:48

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Thermopot for a mash tun conversion. I can't decide between a 33.5L and a 50L. Any guidance on which would be best?

I tend to brew ~6% IPAs, the odd 10-12% RIS and I want to get into Tokyo style high alcohol RIS's (15%+). Usual batch size is 23L but for IPAs and the like I wouldn't mind being able to do 35-40L batches (probably the limit of my 50L kettle).

I'm erring towards the 50L for future proofing. It's only another £10 or so. Thoughts?
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby HTH1975 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 20:00

for another tenner go for the 50L pot.

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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby beer buddah » Sun Nov 06, 2016 21:46

I'm looking to buy 3 100litre pots myself I cannot find 100litre thermo pots.

Naturals go for the 50 always nice to have extra space
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby naturals » Sun Nov 06, 2016 22:01

Cheers guys, appreciate the feedback.

Is there still a forum Qmax on here or JBK? Happy to buy one myself and share it with people but if there's already one doing the rounds...

ETA - just found it here - viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3647&p=145512#p145512
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby PhatFil » Mon Nov 07, 2016 02:45

beer buddah wrote:I'm looking to buy 3 100litre pots myself I cannot find 100litre thermo pots.

Naturals go for the 50 always nice to have extra space

80l is the maximum size available via bergland afaik, though the homebrewbuilder can get them upto 160l iirc
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Re: stockpot and thermopot prices

Postby vacant » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:17

naturals wrote:I'm about to pull the trigger on a Thermopot for a mash tun conversion. I can't decide between a 33.5L and a 50L. Any guidance on which would be best?

I tend to brew ~6% IPAs, the odd 10-12% RIS and I want to get into Tokyo style high alcohol RIS's (15%+). Usual batch size is 23L but for IPAs and the like I wouldn't mind being able to do 35-40L batches (probably the limit of my 50L kettle).

I'm erring towards the 50L for future proofing. It's only another £10 or so. Thoughts?


I have a 33.5 ltr mash tun and 50 ltr boiler. To get 41 ltr into the fermenter (aiming for two cornies when kegged):

  • Hold back 5 ltr liquor from the mash to add late in the boil
  • Drain mash tun then two equal-volume sparges
  • Add the held-back 5 ltr 15 minutes before the end of boil (bring back to the boil then add late hops)

My future plans include not much
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