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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:37

12 quid from Ali express!
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby AFewTooMany » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:29

That's sick mate

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby titch » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:25

looking good, hopefully ill get my stuff out of storage soon and finish building it
the signs and light is as good as the pots
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby krazypara3165 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:59

Holy moly!!!!! where was the NSFW warning!!!!!!!

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Simecoe APA (HBF Donation)

Bottled:
Galaxy Pale Ale, Woodfordes Wherry, Bella Brew Pale Ale, Strawberry and vanilla Pale Ale, Mixed fruits cider, Elderflower and grapefruit fizz.

Maturing:
Rhubarb Wine, WOW rose', Elderberry wine, Mixed berries wine, Elderflower and grapefruit wine, Elderberry wine.

Next Up:
German Pilsner, Guinness Clone, Chateau De Roi selection kit, Strawberry and lime cider.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby AleMonkey » Wed Apr 15, 2015 13:52

Very very sexy... even if I'm not really sure of what I'm looking at, I know I like it.

Great use of the EM legend light in the fridge there.

Total novice Here !!! 3 kits down and counting.... every day's a schoolday.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby abeyptfc » Wed Apr 15, 2015 18:18

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby bobsbeer » Wed Apr 15, 2015 20:47

Very sexy prew porn going on here. :drewell: The only comment would be to add another pump to shorten the plumbing lines for the boiler and through the chiller during sterilisation circulation. Less pipework. That's why I went with 3 pumps and you can cut down on valves. But it' looks a cracking build.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Wed Apr 15, 2015 21:44

Could you draw out what you mean Bob on my P&ID?

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Wed Apr 15, 2015 21:44

And thanks all for the rest of the feedback.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby bobsbeer » Wed Apr 15, 2015 22:47

This is the layout of mine. Hopefully you can see it. I have 7 motorised valves and 4 manual valves. The manual valves are all on the outlet of the pumps to control the flow with the last one to shut off the flow while I disconnect from the boiler and move the hose to direct the flow into the FV. I recirculate all my wort from the boiler via the chiller back to the boiler. Once the temp is hit I then divert the line to the FV. In practice I stop the pump and disconnect the line going to the boiler and move it to the FV. I then restart the pump and empty the boiler. That's where pump 3 comes into it's own. Although it's used to recirc the wort to sterilise the chiller and then to chill. I suppose I could move the pump as they are all connected via camlocks, but I like to just flip switches. :lol: While the boil is happening I also move the connections to clean the HLT and can pump water from the HLT to the MT and than recirc around the MT to wash all the pipes and valves. Later I reconnect the boiler to the HLT and do the same. Having 3 pumps just makes life a bit easier and shortens the pipe runs. Hope that makes sense. :whistle: But if not send me a pm and I can email you.

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Thu Apr 16, 2015 20:00

Ok, I think I understand.

Aall my pipe work will be hard, no flexible at all.

On my last rig I just recirculated some star san through the chiller while the HLT was heating.

But if an additional pump will reduce the pipe work I'm all for it. I'll sit down and re hash the P&ID when I get a moment.

Thank for the help and idea.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Thu Apr 16, 2015 20:01

What's the HLT recirc loop for?
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby PhatFil » Thu Apr 16, 2015 20:41

a temperature controlled hlt if left to stand at target temp for any period can (mine has) end up with liquid at different temperatures at different levels , cooler at the bottom warmer at the top, and spot on target at the position the probe sits,

A good stir is the basic solution, but if you have pumps and fancy switching valves like Bob has recirculating the hlt liquor can solve this 'feature' of a hlt left standing at target temp without any user input.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby bobsbeer » Thu Apr 16, 2015 22:11

Yes as Fil has mentioned the recirculation of the HLT is to even out the temperature. It stops the banding, so that all the water is at the same temperature. I have put the temp probe on the return to the HLT. It constantly pumps the water from the bottom to the top, and creates a swirling motion as the inlet is directed sideways as it flows back into the HLT. I leave it recirculating the whole time it is heating. Once the temp is hit I stop the recirculation and direct flow to the MT. I then refill the HLT and heat to sparge temp during the mash. I don't do HERMS or RIMS as you can see from my diagram, but it could be added quite easily.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Fri Apr 17, 2015 06:39

Makes perfect sense.
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Fri May 01, 2015 16:01

Think I'm going to need a bigger bender.

The pipes still straight as s die!

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby GAZ9053 » Fri May 01, 2015 17:13

what size pipe is it? a lot of electrical wholesalers hire a conduit bender, they are normally 20 & 32mm diam forms

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby PhatFil » Fri May 01, 2015 17:14

you could use straight lengths and use silicone hose to negotiate bends?

could make cleaning with confidence and draining completely easier too ?
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby bobsbeer » Fri May 01, 2015 17:50

That's the problem with benders designed for copper. You need a hefty bender for stainless
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The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Fri May 01, 2015 21:11

GAZ9053 wrote:what size pipe is it? a lot of electrical wholesalers hire a conduit bender, they are normally 20 & 32mm diam forms


16mm. I have such bender, (20 and 25mm is the norm) at work but I didn't think about looking for a 16mm former.

I'll have a look. Cheers.

bobsbeer wrote:That's the problem with benders designed for copper. You need a hefty bender for stainless


I thought I'd get a few bends out of it but not a hope in hell!!

PhatFil wrote:you could use straight lengths and use silicone hose to negotiate bends?

could make cleaning with confidence and draining completely easier too ?


Too messy for this build Fil but thanks for the suggestion.

I'm going to order some more 90 deg compression elbows when funds allow. I only bought 2 as they are 8 pounds a pop from China.
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The new build has begun.

Postby LeeH » Fri May 01, 2015 21:17

Well I still made a little progress but not much.

Elements and PT100's fitted in the HLT/kettle.

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A little pipe work done.

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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby PhatFil » Sat May 02, 2015 11:54

this is gonna be some top shelf brewporn when completed ;)

when using the swaglock style SS compression fittings you can substitute silicone orings for the SS ferrules, which could offer more flexibility if needed, once squeezed onto a tube those SS ferrules are a real pita to remove
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby DirtyCaner » Sat May 02, 2015 13:06

That is incredible!!!!! Well done mate!
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby bobsbeer » Sat May 02, 2015 13:42

Looking great. :thumb:
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Re: The new build has begun.

Postby Clwrob » Sat May 02, 2015 14:05

Great job and keep the photos coming.
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