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Christmas Ale C&Cs please

Postby marcarm » Wed Jun 03, 2015 15:59

Thinking about getting my Xmas ale on this weekend so it has plenty of time to condition before trying and was looking for some C&Cs or advice please.

25l batch size

4.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 88.5 %
0.20 kg Amber Malt (43.3 EBC) Grain 2 4.4 %
0.15 kg Wheat, Torrified (3.3 EBC) Grain 4 2.7 %
0.20 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 3 4.4 %
25.00 g Challenger [7.50 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 20.6 IBUs
15.00 g Challenger [7.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 5.7 IBUs
6.60 g Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 7 -
20.00 g Orange Peel, Bitter (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 9 -
1 Cinnamon Stick (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 12 -
5.00 g Nutmeg (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 10 -
1.00 Items Clove (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 11 -
1.00 tbsp Ginger Root (Boil 5.0 mins) Herb 8 -

Est Original Gravity: 1.045 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.6 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.7 %
Bitterness: 26.3 IBUs
Est Color: 31.4 EBC


Most of the ingredients have been chosen as they are what I have already. Yeast will be from a local brewery.

Are the spices too much or not enough? I want them to be there but not overpowering.

Edit: no star anise as I find aniseed/liquorice disgusting
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Re: Christmas Ale C&Cs please

Postby robwalker » Wed Jun 03, 2015 16:02

Less is more with spices for sure, you only want a very mild spice flavour, trust me it's enough! I'd maybe heavy up the ginger root a bit though.
Here's one I brewed in 2012, it was pretty awesome and perfectly spiced. It was brewed in May and drunk in December. Bear in mind the 9.5L batch.

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.20 kg Lyle's Golden Syrup (0.0 SRM) Extract 8.8 %
1.50 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 66.4 %
0.30 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 13.3 %
0.06 kg Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 2.7 %
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) Hops 16.2 IBU
10.00 gm Bramling Cross [6.00%] (10 min) Hops 5.2 IBU
5.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (30 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
0.50 tsp Allspice, Ground (Primary 5.0 min) Misc
0.50 oz Ginger Root (Boil 20.0 min) Misc
0.50 tsp Nutmeg, Ground (Primary 5.0 min) Misc
0.20 kg Maple Syrup (35.0 SRM) Sugar 8.8 %
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Re: Christmas Ale C&Cs please

Postby robwalker » Wed Jun 03, 2015 16:03

above all, be careful with cloves!!
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Re: Christmas Ale C&Cs please

Postby graysalchemy » Wed Jun 03, 2015 18:33

My advice would be to add the spices after fermentation . Put them in a little muslin bag suspended in the beer and taste daily until you get the desired spice. If you add to the boil and get it wrong you are left with 40 pints of un drinkable beer.

My other advice would be to swap the horrified devils toenail clipping wheat for wheat Malt much better flavour.

Secondly if it is a Christmas ale why is it only starting at 1046 , it's Christmas it should be at least 6%, that's the law for Christmas ales :lol: :lol:

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Re: Christmas Ale C&Cs please

Postby marcarm » Wed Jun 03, 2015 19:02

You're right, I've been looking into it and think I may have to up it to 6-6.5%. I didn't want anything too strong hence trying to keep it at about 4.5%.

God point about adding after fermentation, I've had to chuck batches down the drain before and it is not a nice experience, don't want to have to do it again.

I assume you mean the torrified wheat, as I said I was going by ingredients that I have in stock, but will probably have a delivery between now and when I brew this so could add some wheat malt to that.
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Re: Christmas Ale C&Cs please

Postby Rolfster » Sat Sep 05, 2015 13:51

I soak my spices in vodka before adding the lot them to the fermenter. Then I do what Grey recommends with regular tasting.

I'd use up the torrified wheat if I was you. Grey hates the stuff but if you don't then why buy something else! Its just a personal taste thing!
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