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TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Mon Mar 23, 2015 09:36

Is anyone interested in a collaborative attempt to replicate Brewdog's All Day Long?

Here's the description

Malts: Pale, Cara, Cara Red, Munich, Crystal, Dark Crystal, Rye

Hops: Columbus, Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial

ABV: 2.7%

IBUs: 30

OG: 1.033

All Day Long is a mild like no other. A complex, low-alcohol brew, the third of our 2014 Prototypes features a boatload of seven different speciality malts. For those moments when you need something to turn to that will reward you, All Day Long also gives you an easy shoulder at the same time. Resinous at first, it transitions into something akin to bitter orange marmalade spread onto a thick bread crust. This is for everyone who said BrewDog would never brew a mild…
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby calumscott » Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:09

It's got a load of ingredients that I like the look of!!

I need to focus my brewing at the moment on just building stock of "house" beers but later in the year I'd definitely have a pop at something like this.

I will however seek out a bottle or seven, just because it sounds lovely...
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby pittsy » Mon Mar 23, 2015 20:26

sounds too hoppy and too bitter for a mild , will the malt forward be there ? Certainly no perceived sweetness ( or low bitterness ) . would like to try a bottle but not brew a batch .
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Asalpaws » Mon Mar 23, 2015 20:41

Sounds really nice, tried to make something along the lines of "Nanny State" on the old place. Works fairly OK but you need to drink these low grav, hoppy beers fast as they fade quickly!
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby robwalker » Mon Mar 23, 2015 21:48

never understood these super milds, clue's in the friggin name really, shouldn't they just be caramel-fruity but lightly flavoured?
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Tue Mar 24, 2015 07:52

Don't get too hung up on the style. It is the usual BD marketing guff.

I've run a rought draft through Beersmith - All Day Longer
I have for a 19l batch 2kg of pale, 250g of munich and Carared and 100g of the remaining grains for an OG of 1.033.
I have 25g Columbus @10 and 20g of Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial @5 for 31 IBU.
I'm thinking to mash high 68-69°c for 60 mins max.

Any suggested changes?
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Grumpydev » Tue Mar 24, 2015 08:07

I might be tempted to increase the grain and the mash temps a bit - I'm guessing they leave a fair bit of unfermentables to give it some body and to cut through that relatively high bitterness.

No idea on the ratios though, I might be tempted to boost all the speciality malts except the crystals a bit, and increase the rye to around 10%, not sure you'll get any of the "bite" the rye gives at only 3.5%?

If it's a brew dog you probably need about 1kg of flame out or dry hops too won't you? ;)

Be interesting to see how it turns out :cheers1:
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Thu Apr 30, 2015 18:31

I'm just sampling a pint of this and it is bloody lovely but not that similar to the original.
I mashed at 70°c for 60 mins and the body is OK. It does need the 1kg of flameout hops though.

Code: Select all
Batch Size: 19.00 l   Style: Mild (11A)
Boil Size: 30.34 l   Style Guide: BJCP 2008
Color: 12.9 EBC   Equipment: Electric Urn (10 Gal/40 L) - BIAB
Bitterness: 33.0 IBUs   Boil Time: 90 min
Est OG: 1.033 (8.2° P)   Mash Profile: BIAB, Full Body
Est FG: 1.010 SG (2.5° P)   Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
ABV: 3.0%

Ingredients
Amount   Name   
2.00 kg   Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC)
250.0 g   Munich Malt (17.7 EBC)
250.0 g   Carared (39.4 EBC)
100.0 g   Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (19.7 EBC)
100.0 g   Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC)
100.0 g   Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (157.6 EBC)
100.0 g   Rye Malt (9.3 EBC)
20.0 g   Columbus (Tomahawk) [17.3%] - Boil 10 min
20.0 g   Cascade [6.7%] - Boil 10 min
20.0 g   Amarillo Gold [8.8%] - Boil 5 min
20.0 g   Centennial [10.0%] - Boil 5 min
10.0 g   Cascade [5.5%] - Boil 0 min
20.0 g   Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 0 min
10.0 g   Centennial [10.0%] - Boil 0 min
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Fri May 01, 2015 22:51

I'll try it. I've never made a beer under 4%. I've got all those hops and my local brewery might have the Carared and Munich Malt that I don't have. I just used some Rye and wondered when I might get a chance to use it again :)

Also it's unlike anything I've done. Always one for a new trick :)

What yeast ?
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Sat May 02, 2015 07:13

I Just used standard rehydrated Nottingham. It finished in three days and hit the expected 1.011.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Sun May 03, 2015 15:35

Excellent. I've got Notty. Be my next brew then :) I'll follow your recipe to the letter.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Sun May 03, 2015 18:09

Hang on. I can't find a 90 minute hop. Do we get enough IBU's from 10 min etc hop additions?
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Sun May 03, 2015 19:40

Yeah. Plenty of IBUs all from late additions.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Sun May 03, 2015 20:01

Brilliant. Thanks. That'll be a first brew of that type for me :) Gonna 2 weeks before I can do it though ...... Greek beach holidays CAN get in the way :roll:
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Wed May 20, 2015 18:35

Grains all weighed, checked I've got the hops. Everything's in stock and it's ready for tomorrow morning :)
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Wed May 20, 2015 22:03

Nice one. I'll be making my 2nd batch of this soon with more late hop additions. It was pretty hoppy tbh but I want that Brewdog extravagance in my next batch.
Well jealous of your midweek brewday :D
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Thu May 21, 2015 09:51

AltonAnt wrote:Well jealous of your midweek brewday :D


I'm on leave :) went to Greece last week ..... but now I'm showing off :whistle:

I've have made one change though, meanness got the better of me :oops: The recipe called for 10g of Cascade (0 min) I would have had to open a new bag when I had 10g of Columbus left over .....
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Thu May 21, 2015 11:35

You might get a few more IBUs out of Columbus if temp >80°c which would be fine given the small amount.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Thu May 21, 2015 16:11

Hmmmm yes, your right. .....and I was already generous with my weighing. Still, we'll see.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:17

Any news for us Pjam? Must be almost ready :)
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Mon Jun 15, 2015 13:36

AltonAnt wrote:Any news for us Pjam? Must be almost ready :)


I bottled on the 1st but it needs more time to carb and smooth off. Does taste very promising though :) Very glad I brewed it.

What do you think of yours? I thought mine had a nice hop level.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 14:11

It didn't last long. It was easily the first corny that was excellent until the last drop.
I'm be making a 2nd iteration with 100g more carapils and double the amount of flameout hops for that Brewdog punch.
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Mon Jun 15, 2015 14:20

All bottles with me, hope to start using cornies soon. No fridge for it so could be a winter only corny.

AltonAnt wrote:I'm be making a 2nd iteration


It's nice to develop a beer like that. I'll send you my version in a week or two ;)
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby AltonAnt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 15:26

I'll put some of the next batch in a bottle for you too :thumb:
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Re: TBF collaboration - BD All day long

Postby Pjam » Tue Jun 30, 2015 19:18

Well, mine was very nearly lovely. I got too many IBUs and it's hidden what should have been some good malts. Not helped I think by the fact it came out a bit dry.

Still, I'm not put off cus I can tell there's a really nice beer in there somewhere, I just didn't quite find it.
A bottle is ready for you Ant. See if you feel the same.
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