Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Pjam » Sun Jan 25, 2015 20:48

I've found a recipe I fancy trying. It calls for Melanoiden Malt, but this grain constitutes only 1.8% of the grain bill ! What would you do?

A Forget you every noticed it in the recipe.
B Buy it (nothing else required)
C Substitute for a different grain.


The bill
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4.4kg Pilsner (2 Row) Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 81.61 %
o.450g Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 8.32 %
0.150g Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 2.75 %
0.090g Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 1.83 %
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby sam.k » Sun Jan 25, 2015 20:48

It's for honey flavour isn't it?
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Dennis King » Sun Jan 25, 2015 20:51

Never tried that malt but in my galaxy brews I only use 100gms of aromatic malt, makes a difference if I leave it out.
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Pjam » Sun Jan 25, 2015 20:53

Part the problem is I don't know what it adds!

Dennis King wrote:Never tried that malt but in my galaxy brews I only use 100gms of aromatic malt, makes a difference if I leave it out.


Good point.
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Kyle_T » Sun Jan 25, 2015 20:56

According to the website it adds improved flavour stability, fullness and rounded colour and an improved red colour.

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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby mark1964 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 20:57

it provides a richness in some beers and can make certain ales a bit darker in colour. Its used mainly in decoction brews, I would include it in the recipe :thumb:

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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Bad 'Ed » Sun Jan 25, 2015 21:01

It's to stop you having to do a decoction isn't it?

Never enough time....
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby mark1964 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 21:05

it can be used as a substitute for decoction so yes

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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Good Ed » Sun Jan 25, 2015 21:09

I use it in my Helles recipe (from the Jamil Show) but only at 1.2%. It gives some extra maltyness and fullness, which in past times would have been obtained by decoction mashing (although it is no simple substitute). It is also good in red ales apparently. Dennis has great success with a little aromatic malt to add to the flavour, I've just tried some in a mild, and I'm going to do another mild with melanoidin instead.

Rob at the MM sells it in 500g bags, so I would recommend you try it.

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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby Pjam » Sun Jan 25, 2015 21:12

Hmmmm yes. My grain stock is getting bigger and bigger :)

mark1964 wrote:it can be used as a substitute for decoction so yes


Ah, that is interesting. Looks like I should include it.
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby boab44stout » Fri Mar 27, 2015 18:43

i use melanoidin malt quite a lot i would always put it in if the recipe asks for it i also like aromatic malt
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Re: Melanoiden Malt - Would you Bother? -

Postby rpt » Mon Apr 13, 2015 21:20

There's no reason you can't leave it out. You won't be brewing quite the same beer as the recipe but it all depends what you are trying to achieve. An exact match or just some good beer? I regularly change recipes to suit what I have in stock.

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