Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby TwoBottles » Mon Jan 19, 2015 18:29

Has anyone tried the above?

It is available for £18 for a 25 kilo sack...or 90p a kilo from http://www.geterbrewed.com.

They appear to be incredibly cheap, has anyone used them?
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby Hairybiker » Mon Jan 19, 2015 18:35

I am tempted to get some with my next order. I won a kit from them (over on Jim's) and the malt seems fine.

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby TwoBottles » Thu Jan 29, 2015 23:42

Looking at an Irish home brewers forum they have identified this malt as coming from the Propino spring variety.

I copied this from a UK Malsters site:

Propino, from Syngenta Seeds, could take 10% of the English spring barley area in 2011, says the company’s malting barley development manager Simon Phillips.

Although the variety is six months away from being considered for full recommendation, several merchants are offering contracts, reflecting increasing maltster interest, he says.

“Maltsters’ and Brewing Research Institute tests are showing excellent results,” he says. “It is also doing well in Europe, like Tipple and Quench. That will provide increasing marketing opportunities for UK growers.”

Alan Ridealgh, managing director of Muntons, says his firm is trialling 1000-2000t of the variety from the 2010 harvest and expects to increase that to 5000-10,000t in 2011.

The variety’s high hot water extract figure points to good alcohol yield, and high levels of diastatic activity suit lager production. It also has a low beta-glucan score, desirable for beer clarity.


It is now authorised for brewing and distilling.

I will give this a try when my stock of Maris runs out.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby paul » Fri Jan 30, 2015 00:01

I had an order in with them before Christmas for a sack of this and a sack of pilsner malt. When it arrived it was basically unmilled - there was *some* crushed grain in there, but an awful lot of whole kernels. To give them their due, they put this right by sending two replacement sacks FOC. I think they may have overcompensated with the crush on this one though as it's a little too far the other way and quite floury. Mixing the first and second batch together goes some way to correcting this...

That said I've just had my most successful brew day yet using it - hit all the numbers for OG and volume in the FV.

If you've got your own mill I'd say definitely go for it; if not then keep your fingers crossed whoever is on the mill that day has it set up right.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby TwoBottles » Fri Jan 30, 2015 00:12

Thanks for the info Paul.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby Hairybiker » Wed Feb 11, 2015 20:26

I have just received a sack of this malt. Couldn't resist at the price.
So my first brew with it will be a simple SMASH.

Looking at
5Kg malt
and one of my bulk hops currently in the freezer to test out, possibly 40g of Admiral at FWH then 20g for aroma.

into 27L in the FV
will update when I actually brew it, might be this w/e dependant on weather.

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby HLA91 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 09:38

£4 delivery is very good for 25kg
@HairyBiker what was the crush like? Just a bit worried after the mishap with pauls order.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby DaveGillespie » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:35

Got 5kg of it to try and it's on the slate for the next brew - that won't be for 3 weeks though. Keen to hear experiences.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby boozy_shoes » Thu Feb 19, 2015 16:56

I used this for the first time yesterday and my efficiency went through the roof in comparison to previous MO brews. I hit 6 gallons at 1.052 from 3.5kg of this and 2kg wheat. I have recently been reviewing my sparge method too though so that might be part of it and either way i'm happy. I would definitely recommend it.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby StevieDS » Thu Feb 19, 2015 17:10

boozy_shoes wrote:I used this for the first time yesterday and my efficiency went through the roof in comparison to previous MO brews. I hit 6 gallons at 1.052 from 3.5kg of this and 2kg wheat. I have recently been reviewing my sparge method too though so that might be part of it and either way i'm happy. I would definitely recommend it.


Likewise, I used it last week and my efficiency was 15% higher than usual :shock:

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby Hairybiker » Thu Feb 19, 2015 18:34

Hmm I brewed and got WORSE efficiency, I also had issues getting it to clear and got a lot of bits being transferred to the boiler, had to add a strainer to collect them.
I got 1040 in 25L from 5Kg would normally have had 1050-55 from that.

I complained and they sent me an other bag, will brew with new one on Sunday and update this then.

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby BrewBilly » Sun Mar 15, 2015 19:15

I have gone through a 25kg bag of pale malt and overall I have been very happy with my brews. The price is a big plus
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby mickthetrick » Sun Mar 15, 2015 20:27

i brewed today with it and my efficiency was way way down. i usually use maris otter and as a rule hit my targets. i was very disappointed to be honest as id planned the brew a wile back. was supposed to be a Stone Arrogant Bastard" clone but with the efficacy ill have to re name it "little Bastard"
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby boab44stout » Tue Mar 31, 2015 17:38

just ordered some pale malt from ireland its called minch malt
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby Hairybiker » Tue Mar 31, 2015 19:27

Have done 2 brews to compare the different sacks (of same malt).
With the original sack (which I think is too fine) I got a severely stuck mash. I gave up after getting 10L in the boiler. Wasted brew day.

With the replacement sack the og was lower than I was expecting but no real problems in the mash.
I will NOT be buying it again, the hassle just isn't worth the effort/saving.

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby boab44stout » Wed Apr 01, 2015 23:08

i bought mine from the homebrew company i have just ordered some reduced hops mostly challenger and east kent goldings
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby DaveGillespie » Wed Apr 15, 2015 15:27

Anyone else brewed with this yet? I had it as 50% of the pale malt grist in an IPA which turned out as expected but pipeline has not allowed a brew with this as the only pale malt. It's currently £15 for a 25kg sack - could not be bad to that.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby mickthetrick » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:06

i brewed with what i had left from my purchase on sunday and made a pale malt and hop smash beer. everything went well and i had a 75% efficiency this time which im happy with. the wort was very clear and its almost done fermenting as i type.
the laughran malt seems to have done the job
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby DaveGillespie » Mon May 11, 2015 09:11

Brewed with this myself over the weekend, the following recipe:

4kg Loughran Pale Malt
125g Porridge Oats

20g Magnum 14.4% AA @ 75 mins
13g Goldings @ 10 mins
27g Flyer @ 10 mins
40g Flyer @ Flame out

Did a cereal mash with the Oats and some pale malt then the main mash was left for two hours starting at 67C. Ended up with 22 litres in the Fermenter at 1.043 - I'd estimate around 3 litres of loss to trub, hop absorbtion and dead space.

All in all not quite as good efficiency as I was getting with Bairds Lager malt but not too far away - price difference certainly will make up for it.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby Hairybiker » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:46

OK getting to end of last sack (that I will be buying):
Brewed with :
6Kg PA
300g Crystal
200g Brown
30g Chocolate

60g Brewers Gold FWH
40g BG @ 80C.

Mashed at 66 for 90min
boiled for 60 min

Fly sparged to 33L in boiler.

25L in FV for 1047 Piss POOR efficiency from my 3V setup ~60%.

Normally I would see 80-90% from MO.

Not be buying this again I had to up from 5Kg PA to 6 just to get above 1040.

(3V is 37.5L Thermo pot , 55L boiler & 25L Hlt.)

Back to Worcester Hop Shop for some Crisp MO I think next month.

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby a-slayer » Wed Jul 15, 2015 21:33

TwoBottles wrote:Has anyone tried the above?

It is available for £18 for a 25 kilo sack...or 90p a kilo from http://www.geterbrewed.com.

They appear to be incredibly cheap, has anyone used them?



I have had a 25kg sack of the pale malt and various other malts from them and have had no trouble with it what so ever, made two 10 gallons brews so far and both have turned out very good. Cheap delivery costs as well. Would not hesitate to use them again.
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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby Scott-Westy » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:47

Used it yesterday, exceeded my OG target with BIAB and dunk sparge. Had to water back.

On that basis I would order it again, mind I haven't tasted the beer yet.

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Re: Loughran Family Malt Pale Ale (Irish Malt)

Postby mark1964 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:39

Was going to buy some malts from them. Not so sure now

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