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Extra Pale Malt

Postby Bad 'Ed » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:36

I have a recipe that calls for Maris Otter Extra Pale Malt, but I can't find extra pale malts on MM where I am going to place my order. Is this also known as another name?

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby Good Ed » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:46

I don't think it will make any difference using ordinary MO, but Hop & Grape do sell some lower colour MO here

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby kev » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:48

Brew sell it too. Used it on my last brew and it is VERY pale.

Just use normal MO. Won't matter. Just be more colour.

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby Bad 'Ed » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:50

kev wrote:Brew sell it too. Used it on my last brew and it is VERY pale.

Just use normal MO. Won't matter. Just be more colour.

K


I know, I've just never used it before and wanted a go. I've asked Rob so we'll see what he says.

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby rpt » Sun Apr 27, 2014 20:46

I brewed a pale ale where the recipe is extra pale malt and light crystal malt. I brewed it with my usual Crisps MO from the MM plus normal crystal malt. It is very pale - looks like lager. So I can't imagine there is much need for extra pale malt.

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 13:06

I am picking out ingredients for my first AG batch this week, and I too have a recipe that calls for "Extra Pale"...

Based on the comments above, should I just stick with MO when this is called up?
Bear in mind, I know absolutely NOTHING about what I am buying right now haha!

Presumably there is very little difference between the "Pale" and "MO" malts?
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby Borischarlton » Tue Jun 21, 2016 13:26

Extra Pale malt is sold as either lager malt or we also do a extra pale Maris Otter.

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 13:35

Borischarlton wrote:Extra Pale malt is sold as either lager malt or we also do a extra pale Maris Otter.

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Oh really? So if I put the lager malt in to my ingredients list, what I would be getting would be "Extra pale" malt as per the recipe?
I hadn't spotted the latter but I will go back and check.
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby robwalker » Tue Jun 21, 2016 15:10

I use extra pale Maris otter in almost all of our brews. With no speciality malts it gives a very light colour, that of wye valley hpa, fizzy yellow lagers, etc. It's a great base malt and very popular around these parts.
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby stevelmu » Tue Jun 21, 2016 15:37

We have just used Rob's extra pale MO. Straw coloured, perfect for a Summer pale.
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 15:38

I can't seem to find the EPMO on the site.
I am only finding the basic MO...

**EDIT**

I found it.
For some reason it doesn't appear via the search bar.
I have found it by specifically going in to the malt section.
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby robwalker » Tue Jun 21, 2016 15:52

You need 90 mins to avoid dms with lager malt.
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby Goulders » Tue Jun 21, 2016 16:42

robwalker wrote:You need 90 mins to avoid dms with lager malt.

Never had a problem with Extra Pale Maris Otter, although I tend to boil for 70-80 minutes
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 16:48

I think the issue on the MM site is that you cannot add the EPMO to the "my recipe" section - it simply isn't listed as an option.
Might have to mail them about that...
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby rpt » Tue Jun 21, 2016 16:49

I wouldn't worry about exactly which base malt to buy, at least not at this stage in your brewing career.

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby xCamel xSlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 16:50

rpt wrote:I wouldn't worry about exactly which base malt to buy, at least not at this stage in your brewing career.



Would standard "Pale ale malt" be sufficient then?

http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.ph ... ductId=287

I wasn't sure how much of a difference it would make you see...
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby rpt » Tue Jun 21, 2016 17:10

I've actually just received my first bag of that so can't comment yet. But I have used Crisp MO, Propino and Irish stout malt to make various ales and are all excellent. I've also used MO to make a perfectly good lager, although I think pilsner malt does work better.

BTW, Irish stout malt is a pale malt.

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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby robwalker » Tue Jun 21, 2016 17:33

Lager malt is lager/pilsner malt, extra pale Maris otter is extra pale Maris otter, a lighter coloured version of regular Maris otter. MO Is kilned a little higher I believe so the precursor is mostly removed - lager malt is not, so make sure you know what you're buying by what it says on the sack, not what the home brew shop call it.
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby KevinS » Wed Jun 22, 2016 19:20

Awesome stuff Rob! This was the only reason I ever needed to go elsewhere, so great to see its now added :thumb:
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Re: Extra Pale Malt

Postby Goulders » Wed Jun 22, 2016 21:05

Or for an explanation by Crisp
http://www.crispmalt.co/content/brewery
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